Another leak: 5D replacement spec...

[phoakm]

yah roh ...... must get more CF memory and RAM haiz ....

SITEX coming!

 

[doodah]

Of course!
But the 21MP 1Ds3 has a 1-1.5 stop advantage over the 24MP A900. And if Canon improve the 21MP sensor, it might have a 2 stop advantage. Then they will reign in the 20+ MP category. But who needs 20+ MP with 20MB RAW files?? If I were Canon, I would improve the 12.8MP 5D sensor and make it quieter than the D3/D700. Then Canon can fight all categories with lowest noise in the business.

Actually, I am rather confident the 20+ MP Canon sensor will beat the D3/D700 sensor into a pulp at high ISO. :bsmilie:

OT a bit. Actually noise levels as pixels increase is not as bad as people make it out to be. It of course gets worse but most of the increase is because we are viewing at 100%. When viewed at a fixed size say a 17 inch screen, the increase in noise is less evident.
e.g.
1.3 MP 100% view on a 1280x1024 monitor is 100% magnification.
12 MP 100% view on a 1280x1024 monitor is about 300% magnification.

Precisely. Photographers should never obssess themselves with noise at the pixel level. DPReview get it SO WRONG. We should only be concerned with noise at the IMAGE level.

 

[Russ]

Precisely. Photographers should never obssess themselves with noise at the pixel level. DPReview get it SO WRONG. We should only be concerned with noise at the IMAGE level.

Ah, you put it so so well. much better that I did.
It is image level that matters!!

 

[zj2000]

Precisely. Photographers should never obssess themselves with noise at the pixel level. DPReview get it SO WRONG. We should only be concerned with noise at the IMAGE level.

True my friend, which was why I was so impressed when I first saw the ISO 3200 shot by the 50d. Although at the pixel level it might be noisy, making the shot fit my lcd monitor makes it almost noiseless. It almost looks like an ISO 400 shot on my 350d. That's a whopping 3 stops better. And the 5d mkII is supposed to be even better at high ISO? 4 stops better than my 350d?

All of a sudden all my lenses are 4 stops faster, who the heck needs a f2.8 anymore.

 

[Russ]

True my friend, which was why I was so impressed when I first saw the ISO 3200 shot by the 50d. Although at the pixel level it might be noisy, making the shot fit my lcd monitor makes it almost noiseless. It almost looks like an ISO 400 shot on my 350d. That's a whopping 3 stops better. And the 5d mkII is supposed to be even better at high ISO? 4 stops better than my 350d?

All of a sudden all my lenses are 4 stops faster, who the heck needs a f2.8 anymore.

2.8 still useful for DOF reduction .... Otherwise, just up the ISO by 1 stop when you use F4 lenses!!

 

[StrifeYun]

True my friend, which was why I was so impressed when I first saw the ISO 3200 shot by the 50d. Although at the pixel level it might be noisy, making the shot fit my lcd monitor makes it almost noiseless. It almost looks like an ISO 400 shot on my 350d. That's a whopping 3 stops better. And the 5d mkII is supposed to be even better at high ISO? 4 stops better than my 350d?

All of a sudden all my lenses are 4 stops faster, who the heck needs a f2.8 anymore.

2.8 still useful for DOF reduction .... Otherwise, just up the ISO by 1 stop when you use F4 lenses!!

dun4get a brighter view finder hehe

 

[StrifeYun]

SITEX coming!

:lovegrin::devil:

 

[doodah]

Video Mode !!??
Has Canon really goes the way of D90 ??

Yes. While the D90 has 720P video, the 5D replacement will have it at 1080P.

No doubt a minority will need the resolution. But 99% of us don't need 24MP. Good for showing off for the puffy headed.

High pixel count is useful for wildlife (birding, nature, bug macro) photography where cropping is often used. BUT Canon is smarter than the competition, they have also provided sRAW, so you can have smaller RAW files if you are not fans of large files.

 

[Garion]

High pixel count is useful for wildlife (birding, nature, bug macro) photography where cropping is often used. BUT Canon is smarter than the competition, they have also provided sRAW, so you can have smaller RAW files if you are not fans of large files.

Hopefully the 5D II will have a 1.6x equivalent crop mode with the crop marking on the inside of the VF....just like Nikon's Dx series.

 

[phoakm]

Hopefully the 5D II will have a 1.6x equivalent crop mode with the crop marking on the inside of the VF....just like Nikon's Dx series.

Er Bro, that is for DX lenses.....EF-S? :sweat:

 

[CYRN]

Hopefully the 5D II will have a 1.6x equivalent crop mode with the crop marking on the inside of the VF....just like Nikon's Dx series.

tis one confirm no hope one.

 

[Garion]

Er Bro, that is for DX lenses.....EF-S? :sweat:

Highly doubt so bro... :dunno:

tis one confirm no hope one.

Yah. Was hoping they implement it tho...useful if u wanna shoot crop mode nia e.g wildlife shooter..and less megapixels also...lol.

 

[zj2000]

You mean a digital zoom mode? Yeah I would want that.

Wow, I did some calculations and a 4x digital zoom on a 24mp FF would still give you a 1.5mp photo.

 

[Love_sky]

Next month going to hong kong ...

Considering of buy a 5D since the price is "ok" for me as a student...

Any advice ?

 

[Kochu]

Since Alpha -900 (24 mp) will be sold for 3000-/U$- 5D replacement should cost somewhere around.
Kochu

 

[mrchua]

Next month going to hong kong ...

Considering of buy a 5D since the price is "ok" for me as a student...

Any advice ?

have fun with your 5D dude. i think the majority here will be flaunting their 7D's though. :bsmilie:

 

[Russ]

tis one confirm no hope one.

Agree. Problem with the EF/EF-S mount is that the mount to focal plane length is short, meaning there are plenty of adapters to mount other lenses. Then Canon decides to design in Short Back Focus (Nikon did not) to protect their L series from cheap and good EF-S lenses and now they can't do what Nikon can.

But if they have a way or redesigning the mirror so that it can swing out of the way ....

 

[zj2000]

Agree. Problem with the EF/EF-S mount is that the mount to focal plane length is short, meaning there are plenty of adapters to mount other lenses. Then Canon decides to design in Short Back Focus (Nikon did not) to protect their L series from cheap and good EF-S lenses and now they can't do what Nikon can.

But if they have a way or redesigning the mirror so that it can swing out of the way ....

Can, they can do this by designing a movable axis for the mirror. Instead of of being fixed, the axis can move back while the mirror swings up. But I think the biggest problem is whether canon will want to put in the effort and include this in future FFs. We all know that such a feature only serves to tide over people upgrading from crop sensors, no one will want to use EF-S lenses on FF permanently anyway.

 

[CYRN]

Agree. Problem with the EF/EF-S mount is that the mount to focal plane length is short, meaning there are plenty of adapters to mount other lenses. Then Canon decides to design in Short Back Focus (Nikon did not) to protect their L series from cheap and good EF-S lenses and now they can't do what Nikon can.

But if they have a way or redesigning the mirror so that it can swing out of the way ....

Can, they can do this by designing a movable axis for the mirror. Instead of of being fixed, the axis can move back while the mirror swings up. But I think the biggest problem is whether canon will want to put in the effort and include this in future FFs. We all know that such a feature only serves to tide over people upgrading from crop sensors, no one will want to use EF-S lenses on FF permanently anyway.

You guys might want to check out the A900 mirror assembly

 

[CYRN]

Yah. Was hoping they implement it tho...useful if u wanna shoot crop mode nia e.g wildlife shooter..and less megapixels also...lol.

Juz found out that my new LX3 does that