And the 30D Sale begins

[Kachui]

Bro, that's why I say, photo-taking is now a way to show-off how good the gears one holds, and not how good the photos they produce. It's now like having a BMW or Merc, but cannot even drive well! I'm sure you can identify many of such drivers on the road.

But I am sure a BMW or a Merc is smoother ride than my old beat up Hyundai.

 

[kelvinlhm]

If the price gap btw 30D n 40D isn't big, 40D seems a better investment for the next 2-3yrs...hey people, have your notice the weight for 40D? Its ard 900g...heavy heavy heavy...like going gym

 

[StrifeYun]

If the price gap btw 30D n 40D isn't big, 40D seems a better investment for the next 2-3yrs...hey people, have your notice the weight for 40D? Its ard 900g...heavy heavy heavy...like going gym

wah .... 900g !! ... can use to train deltoids liao arrr .. haha

 

[Xiao_shin]

Bro, that's why I say, photo-taking is now a way to show-off how good the gears one holds, and not how good the photos they produce. It's now like having a BMW or Merc, but cannot even drive well! I'm sure you can identify many of such drivers on the road.

Bro, you are so wrong.. Gears must put in signature and website to show show... If in any doubts, always blame the gears.

 

[akdwivedi]

I dont know, but i started with a compact film camera, then moved to EOS88, then EOS 30.. I found that as I upgrade to better camera bodies, my keepers went on increasing as well. I am not sure whether it was due to my skills getting better.. But I found that every time I bought a new body it inspired me to read more about the body (features) and try all of them.. In that process I am sure I did learnt faster. I am not sure I would have been able to learn at the same pace if I would have stayed with EOS88..

so my take (YMMV) is that better camera do help to learn faster provided there is a willingness to learn and extract the maximum return for your investment.

 

[Kermitfm]

Getting a 'better' camera improves your technical abilities but does little to improve your creative skills. So if you shoot pictures with bad composition at 3 fps using a 300D, you will continue to shoot pictures with bad composition at 6fps using the 40D. (Note - this is a generalisation and does not refer to anyone in particular). You may get sharper photos, better exposed lighting but not the 'wow' factor of those who can capture the spirit and the emotion of the moment.

If you are a good photographer and the camera is limiting your creative skill, having a better camera, with more features will relieve you of the technical task to concentrate on the creative side of photography. Get the latest and the best you can afford by all means but know that one also need to improve to get the best out of the equipment.

 

[David]

Heehee...... agree.... that is why getting the basic right is the most important!! :thumbsup:

Most important or not is all relative. May be important to you but to those who can afford whatever they want, it doesn't matter. The most expensive camera is maybe just a toy to them to take out once in a while to play play.

For those who argues consistently that gears matter less, then perhaps it's time to also question why you upgraded that 300-400D to a 20D, or why you went up from a 10D to a 30D, etc. Isn't it bcos you could afford it rather than the new model will make an awful lot of improvement to your shots? The new cam won't change your photo skills isn't it, as the argument always goes. So we can't deny the "upgrade" has something to do with worldly desires too.

So good skills or not, it really doesn't matter much. It's more like willyou bear to spend your $ on the newer model. Wise or bad decision is another matter.

 

[David]

Bro, that's why I say, photo-taking is now a way to show-off how good the gears one holds, and not how good the photos they produce. It's now like having a BMW or Merc, but cannot even drive well! I'm sure you can identify many of such drivers on the road.

Hmm, maybe to show off but I doubt it's really the main reason. I dunno whoever goes around in public getting a perverse satisfaction from people staring at his equipment. If I know nuts about golf, you can show me your $10k golf clubs and I won't know the price or be impressed too!

This is the 21st century. People buy a lot of things. If one earns say $10k a month, what is a $2k 40D? Nothing much. So buy lor. Or even if you earn $2k a month... so what. It's just one month's salary, some will think.

After all, Singapore cars are so expensive but you still see so many cars on the road. And not many are rich or earn much to own one.

 

[Russ]

I have a 300D. It takes about 3 seconds to wake up (and there have been times it went to sleep and I have lost shots that way), at ISO800 noise becomes an issue, the LCD is 1.8 inch and I am at the stage where my near sight is poor without reading glasses. And it takes forever to read photos from the CF card for review.

I think it is time to upgrade!! And make my life easier. Yes, I still get good shots, etc with the 300D and it is still a fantastic starter cam.

At the end of the day, the 300D to 40D upgrade is probably as significant than say a EOS500 to EOS5 in the old film days.

Time to hit the queue next month....

 

[Halfmoon]

Most important or not is all relative. May be important to you but to those who can afford whatever they want, it doesn't matter. The most expensive camera is maybe just a toy to them to take out once in a while to play play.

For those who argues consistently that gears matter less, then perhaps it's time to also question why you upgraded that 300-400D to a 20D, or why you went up from a 10D to a 30D, etc. Isn't it bcos you could afford it rather than the new model will make an awful lot of improvement to your shots? The new cam won't change your photo skills isn't it, as the argument always goes. So we can't deny the "upgrade" has something to do with worldly desires too.

So good skills or not, it really doesn't matter much. It's more like willyou bear to spend your $ on the newer model. Wise or bad decision is another matter.

I think gears matter to some extend... like 40D have spot metering that a 300D 400D do not have, etc......

FPS also is important to some shooters too.....

 

[calebk]

Question: Is it true the sensor for the 40D is the same one found in 400D since both are 10MP cameras?

I believe that it is a different sensor... a Digic III....

Bros, from what I hear, the sensor is similar to the one inside the new 1DmkIII, just that it's got a 1.6x crop factor.

Bro, you are so wrong.. Gears must put in signature and website to show show... If in any doubts, always blame the gears.

Yep. Always blame the expensivezomg721591dollar 17-55 when the photographer can't keep his bloody machine still. On a joke site, it was said that Nikon noticed this observation where

"when the photographer takes good photos, he claims all the credit, but when a photographer takes bad photos, he blames the equipment. By removing the photographer from the equation..." :bsmilie:

 

[airfins]

wah .... 900g !! ... can use to train deltoids liao arrr .. haha

That plus the L Lens, Flash, spare batteries, Tripod, Camera bag n padding.....:sweat: more like a whole body work out:sweat::sweat::sweat:

 

[StrifeYun]

That plus the L Lens, Flash, spare batteries, Tripod, Camera bag n padding..... more like a whole body work out

hmm :think: ur right , time to get that 40D + 70-200 IS USM and cancel that gym membership :devil:

i.e. instead of waking up early go gym ... now can ....wake up early go for shoot !! :thumbsup: .... on Monday, Wednesday and Fridays !! :lovegrin:

 

[adamadam]

PRA imaging here quote AUD$1790 for 40D body.

Prices seem to start lower and lower!

If got money, then buy!

When we look at photographs, we see an image, not the camera used. Unless it was an effect achieved only through a special function of the camera

 

[adamadam]

Actually, maybe they are selling for D3 and D300

 

[calebk]

PRA imaging here quote AUD$1790 for 40D body.

Prices seem to start lower and lower!

If got money, then buy!

When we look at photographs, we see an image, not the camera used. Unless it was an effect achieved only through a special function of the camera

I like tilt/shift. Cannot get with my 50mm ): Must spend money on 24mm TS/E. Eh, body crop factor too tight. Need high-res, FF, so buy 1DsMkIII. Heh heh.

One day, in the near future, FF will be so affordable no one will use APS-C. Just waiting for that day to arrive.

 

[StrifeYun]

I like tilt/shift. Cannot get with my 50mm ): Must spend money on 24mm TS/E. Eh, body crop factor too tight. Need high-res, FF, so buy 1DsMkIII. Heh heh.

One day, in the near future, FF will be so affordable no one will use APS-C. Just waiting for that day to arrive.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

think should be my childeren's generation liaoz ...... :think: hmm nahh, think 5-8 year can liao ? :angel:

 

[Halfmoon]

I like tilt/shift. Cannot get with my 50mm ): Must spend money on 24mm TS/E. Eh, body crop factor too tight. Need high-res, FF, so buy 1DsMkIII. Heh heh.

One day, in the near future, FF will be so affordable no one will use APS-C. Just waiting for that day to arrive.

Maybe FF will be the main stream, and 1.6 will be budget model???

Some will like 1.6 view for long range....

I am avoiding EF-S lens as I believe FF is the way!!!

 

[iRaphael]

personally, i feel that the live view will reduce the battery life by quite a lot. cos i was using a prosumer cam and it sucked out the battery. unless i changed to view through the EVF. but it wont matter for event photographers who carry like 6 batteries right? haha:bsmilie:

 

[calebk]

Maybe FF will be the main stream, and 1.6 will be budget model???

Some will like 1.6 view for long range....

I am avoiding EF-S lens as I believe FF is the way!!!

1.6 doesn't actually give you any longer range. It just crops. It's a crop factor.