Cheesecake
Senior Member
alrite...TMC said:now you are being sexist. :bsmilie:
Paul can be all he wants and change his D2X to a shocking pink as long as he produce his pro fotos. :bsmilie:
alrite...TMC said:now you are being sexist. :bsmilie:
Pros: good continuity, ie no problems in relearning a new model. Great optics. Great ergonomics. Good range of F-mount lenses. Great pictures. No gimmicks.Chris Lim said:Shall we please stick to the topic so that this can be used as a quick access to the info needed by new members? thanks.
I'll take the advise of some seniors to let it run a few days. If a flamewar starts. I will close this thread immediately. Thanks.
canon has USM in almost everything, even the japan version of the 18-55 kit lens has USM, not to mention tt they've got IS in many of these as well.lsisaxon said:Cons: (Still trying to find some fault with the system).
So far, it seems I'm the only one having a gripe with the below limitations, so I'll list them as my cons.lsisaxon said:Pros: good continuity, ie no problems in relearning a new model. Great optics. Great ergonomics. Good range of F-mount lenses. Great pictures. No gimmicks.
Cons: (Still trying to find some fault with the system).
roti_prata said:canon has USM in almost everything, even the japan version of the 18-55 kit lens has USM, not to mention tt they've got IS in many of these as well.
some ppl say theres not use for IS on normal and wider lenses, i think theres no use for it only when ur on a tripod.
nikon only offers VR and to some extent, afs, on the pro series(>$2000)
Cheesecake said:canon made the progression into USM and I.S techie in their lenses much earlier perhaps due to a much better and faster research in such areas.
they are more daring(even on their lens mount, yes), perhaps spurred on by huge fundings, in making reform.
Nikon on the other hand is much more traditional in their approach but more often than not, their newly developed products do amaze their users and followers.
Nikon is not only making AFS with VR on their S$2k lenses. we've a few, the AFS24-120VR, the AFS18-200 VR... they do not cost above S$2k. i feel VR should only be added to lenses that really requires them. now, AFS is almost a standard feature on all new lenses developed by Nikon.
in the future, lenses from Nikon will feature such gadgets such as AFS and VR. ur wallet should be thicker to embrace these newest lenses as well as servicing costs.
You don't like that say my D2X PRO hor :nono: :angry:Cheesecake said:is paul a closet gay?
hehehe
All his pics are PRO hor :nono:Cheesecake said:alrite...
Paul can be all he wants and change his D2X to a shocking pink as long as he produce his pro fotos. :bsmilie:
VR is as useful as only on the longer zooms, zooms beyond 300MM is really pretty practically useless apart from a few useful quick action shots whereby you don't have time to mount on tripods. Try handling a 200 f/2VR handheld, and you'll be wondering why the h*ll, you'd want VR on the 300 f/2.8VR and up.Chris Lim said:Very hopeful words Cheesecake. I've been wondering about the VR and its progress on to the lower end range of lenses as well. If it really does pull through and doesn't cost as much, i think it'll be a very good marketing strat to boost sales. Even the Cool pix has it already. VRII
espn said:VR is as useful as only on the longer zooms, zooms beyond 300MM is really pretty practically useless apart from a few useful quick action shots whereby you don't have time to mount on tripods. Try handling a 200 f/2VR handheld, and you'll be wondering why the h*ll, you'd want VR on the 300 f/2.8VR and up.
As for USM/AF-S, certain ranged glasses do NOT need them at all, look at the AF 10.5 FE f/2.8DX, it doesn't need AF-S at all. The cost of putting in the SWM in a 50 mm or 85 mm doesn't seem even useful. Even on the new Micro 105 f/2.8D is AF-S necessary?
Technology is good, but only where it's necessary.
wildstallion said:Agree, Pro Comment :thumbsup:
I find some of the nikon sensors very noisy and would ever want to go above iso800 in dark conditions because the noise level is too high, I have heard that canon sensors can handle noise alot better, but then again so can the d200 and D2X whne compared to the d70(s) and d50.
espn said:VR is as useful as only on the longer zooms, zooms beyond 300MM is really pretty practically useless apart from a few useful quick action shots whereby you don't have time to mount on tripods. Try handling a 200 f/2VR handheld, and you'll be wondering why the h*ll, you'd want VR on the 300 f/2.8VR and up.
As for USM/AF-S, certain ranged glasses do NOT need them at all, look at the AF 10.5 FE f/2.8DX, it doesn't need AF-S at all. The cost of putting in the SWM in a 50 mm or 85 mm doesn't seem even useful. Even on the new Micro 105 f/2.8D is AF-S necessary?
Technology is good, but only where it's necessary.
Cheesecake said:erm...
CCD and CMOS.. :dunno:
Good for bragging as well mah. The eternal "I have but your brand don't have"espn said:Technology is good, but only where it's necessary.
i dont really understand ur 1st sentance, some typo perhaps? i agree tt VR is kinda useless on long lenses 300mm and up coz how often do ppl shoot them handheld?espn said:VR is as useful as only on the longer zooms, zooms beyond 300MM is really pretty practically useless apart from a few useful quick action shots whereby you don't have time to mount on tripods. Try handling a 200 f/2VR handheld, and you'll be wondering why the h*ll, you'd want VR on the 300 f/2.8VR and up.