A6000

[m3vapour]

Was informed that this item will arrives in Singapore end Mar - Apr ....
Btw, anyone have experience on IQ of Nex-6 to share? I suppose there are differences as this A6k is using new sensor of 24mp on APSC.. The current setup seems almost "perferct" except I am not quite sure of the IQ. Used to own a A57 before but never a Nex.

So anyone with a Nex-6 or perhaps Nex-7 can advise the IQ and possibly share some pics? especially low light

It's hard to tell cuz its a brand new sensor on the a6000.
Had the 5n,6 and 7 and at 16mp vs 24 , the images were indeed a lot cleaner in low light on the 5n/6 and even 3200 were "clean" enough for me BUT the hybrid af on the nex6 was premature imo. Certain issues with the focusing accuracy department.
Pdaf doesnt work in low light and switches to full on cdaf so im not sure how the new sensor gonna handle it in low light having so many of them embeded but from those youtube videos seen so far, it does looks very promising and dont seem to slow down considerably in dim lighting. For now i feel its a definite winner and a more matured product than the nex6. i would have taken it anytime if i have gotten the a7 instead of the a7r and had that extra cash lying around =)

Since you asked for samples, i'll share some handheld low light snapshots i took with the 5n,6 and 7, straight ooc. Good enough for me actually.


Iso 3200


Iso 1600 nex7

 

[spinworkxroy]

I think i will give up the idea of trading my nex 6 for this after i found this important omission.
The PDAF on the a6k ONLY works in wide mode and AFC mode.
If you use AFS with center or spot you will ONLY get CDAF working....which basically make everyday normal shooting like an nex6..
Even the nex6 also same...you can't manually select the PDAF points...the a6k is the same..
It has 92% coverage of PDAF points but you CANNOT select any of them to use on your own..you NEED to use Wide AFC mode..this might be good for sports and stuff but sometimes the subject want want to track is not what the camera is tracking and in this case you will have absolutely no manual control over which focus point to use...
And the CDAF just isn't fast enough...I guess in this sense the Fuji still is better..you can select the PDAF points on a Fuji..not this camera

 

[m3vapour]

I think u got a misconception here. Dedicated CDAF in af-s doesnt mean its slow, the pdaf points are there to aid the camera go faster for af-c. This is a new processor, the olympus em-1 is on dedicated cdaf on m4/3 lenses too and pdaf on 4/3 lenses...still super zappy. If sony claims the a6000 is the fastest in the Af department then perhaps it is. You dont know yet.
The improved autofocusing is as a whole system itself [hardware + software], not just a single element of phase detection. A strong CDAF is as good as anything else. Dont gotta come to any conclusions yet even before even using it comparing just via paper specs. Anyway its not out yet, so just wait for the real thing then see for yourelf if its up to expectations =)

One thing i've learnt over the years is dont get too hyped up over whats promised during marketing, it usually doesnt turn out as awesome as it is marketed.

 

[spinworkxroy]

I think u got a misconception here. Dedicated CDAF in af-s doesnt mean its slow, the pdaf points are there to aid the camera go faster for af-c. This is a new processor, the olympus em-1 is on dedicated cdaf on m4/3 lenses too and pdaf on 4/3 lenses...still super zappy. If sony claims the a6000 is the fastest in the Af department then perhaps it is. You dont know yet.
The improved autofocusing is as a whole system itself [hardware + software], not just a single element of phase detection. A strong CDAF is as good as anything else. Dont gotta come to any conclusions yet even before even using it comparing just via paper specs. Anyway its not out yet, so just wait for the real thing then see for yourelf if its up to expectations =)

One thing i've learnt over the years is dont get too hyped up over whats promised during marketing, it usually doesnt turn out as awesome as it is marketed.

well, it comes back to the same reason why i bought the a7r over the a7..i won't be able to use the PDAF anyways since i only use spot..and CDAF is defnately slower than PDAF..that's why there the pdaf there in the first place no? if cdaf was faster, there is no need for pdaf

 

[m3vapour]

pros and cons. how fast is fast enough. eyeblink speed? For me, i say if it can match the speed of MFTs its an accomplishment. maybe your expectations for this system is higher and of course as a potential buyer you're entitled to your own expectations so i say just wait till the system is out before any judgement is passed on its performance =) cheers

 

[spinworkxroy]

speed aside...if I can live with a7r..anything faster is a bonus..I just dont like the idea of a feature you pay for but can't use the way you wished for.

 

[eow]

No need to kanjeong, if u recall chris of cameratvstore review the afs is actually quite snappy already , just it not as insanely fast as it in afc mode

 

[Ghostfit]

speed aside...if I can live with a7r..anything faster is a bonus..I just dont like the idea of a feature you pay for but can't use the way you wished for.

Don't quite understand this statement.

Why would you pay for a feature(product), when it doesn't works the way you want it to ? (Suits your needs)
That's like buying a Ferrari and then complaining that it's useless for weekly supermarket outing.

No offences meant, just want to understand what you mean exactly.

 

[Errz]

[video=youtube_share;qZ9vwwyJcZc]http://youtu.be/qZ9vwwyJcZc[/video]

 

[spinworkxroy]

Don't quite understand this statement.

Why would you pay for a feature(product), when it doesn't works the way you want it to ? (Suits your needs)
That's like buying a Ferrari and then complaining that it's useless for weekly supermarket outing.

No offences meant, just want to understand what you mean exactly.

What i mean is..
The selling point of the A6k is the 92% coverage of the PDAF points.
But the caveat is that the PDAF is ONLY useable is you use the Wide AF mode and only in AFC mode.
Most times when shooting stills, we won't be using AFC but AFS..ANd if you use AFS, all you will have is CDAF.
So basically, for most (non sports) photographers, 90% of the time you will be using AFS and only CDAF, making the PDAF useless in this case.
In a rival company Fuji, their PDAF points are ALL useable and manually selectable in AFS mode and in AFC mode. So technically, it is possible...just not sure why Sony doesn't allow it in the A6k.

 

[spinworkxroy]

[video=youtube_share;qZ9vwwyJcZc]http://youtu.be/qZ9vwwyJcZc[/video]

hmmm.
it does seem like the pdaf is indeed much faster than cdaf.
looks like when using this camera..afc is the best method of af to use..even for normal shooting..we should just leave it at afc...wonder if that wouod affect the battery life.

 

[Joshelerry]

Can Sony A6000 should in BULB mode? Also using any compatible wireless trigger like Hahnel?

Nex-6 users any info to share?

 

[richiemccaw1]

Can Sony A6000 should in BULB mode? Also using any compatible wireless trigger like Hahnel?

Nex-6 users any info to share?

Yes bulb mode is fine on my Nex 6. The usual triggers would likely not work as the Nex only has a micro USB port instead of a shutter release port which most remotes require.

You would prob have to get a simple wireless infrared remote to go with the Nex. I got a Phottix one for about $10-12 from TK.

 

[Joshelerry]

Yes bulb mode is fine on my Nex 6. The usual triggers would likely not work as the Nex only has a micro USB port instead of a shutter release port which most remotes require.

You would prob have to get a simple wireless infrared remote to go with the Nex. I got a Phottix one for about $10-12 from TK.

Hi Tahnks... do you have the model no for the Phottix one? I suppose its a simple shutter release button on the remote only?

 

[richiemccaw1]

Hi Tahnks... do you have the model no for the Phottix one? I suppose its a simple shutter release button on the remote only?

It reads 'IR-Sony' on the back. Two buttons, one 'S' button and a '2S' button. The latter should for delayed shutter release.

The IR remote has to be pointed at the IR port of the Nex camera, ie within line of sight, yet not in your own picture. Easier than it sounds. Great to use too

 

[maldito]

hmmm.
it does seem like the pdaf is indeed much faster than cdaf.
looks like when using this camera..afc is the best method of af to use..even for normal shooting..we should just leave it at afc...wonder if that wouod affect the battery life.

yap, and quite impressive for a kit lens

 

[vagus]

I for one is gunning for this A6000..... been wanting to upgrade my NEX5N.
Bought my NEX5N mainly to document the birth and growing up of my son 2 years ago....along the way added quite a few E-mount lenses: SEL1855, SEL16F28, Wide Angle converter, SEL50F18, SEL18200LE etc
So quite hesitant to switch camp to olympus OMD which had been enticing me quite abit.

Based on specs and review, finally a E-mount decent-sized camera body that has the AF to catch up with my active 2 yr old boy!

So 2 questions:
1) Should I get the A6000 with kit lens 16-50? Will it be very significantly different from my existing SEL1855? Or I just better off getting the body alone.
2) I am headed for HongKong for holiday mid April, should I get my A6000 from there? Warranty? Which shop or area to search for Sony cameras?

Thanks!

 

[m32t8103]

What i mean is..
The selling point of the A6k is the 92% coverage of the PDAF points.
But the caveat is that the PDAF is ONLY useable is you use the Wide AF mode and only in AFC mode.
Most times when shooting stills, we won't be using AFC but AFS..ANd if you use AFS, all you will have is CDAF.
So basically, for most (non sports) photographers, 90% of the time you will be using AFS and only CDAF, making the PDAF useless in this case.
In a rival company Fuji, their PDAF points are ALL useable and manually selectable in AFS mode and in AFC mode. So technically, it is possible...just not sure why Sony doesn't allow it in the A6k.

So does that mean no PDAF when you using AFS? oh dear~ i just about to test the PDAF on the system, how i wish what we know is due to the Demo Set and not the final production. Let pray the Final production allowed us to do what we expect it to be

 

[Errz]

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/full-a6000-manual-available-for-download/

can now download the a6000 PDF manual at http://support.sony-asia.com.edgesuite.net/consumer/IM/4532055111.pdf.

 

[Errz]

Sony NEX-6 vs NEX-7 vs A6000 AF test
[video=youtube_share;4cH4_7DlINI]http://youtu.be/4cH4_7DlINI[/video]