A Rangefinder Wedding

[Royale With Cheese]

Took these from the church in the morning & some from the wedding dinner.

Not much from the wedding dinner, busy keeping myself fill with the booze! heehee!

Thanks to Ben for the M8 & Chairman Dan for the Nokton lens.
The wides are taken with me Hexar + cv 15mm

 

[Royale With Cheese]

 

[Royale With Cheese]

I must say Master ckuang, I have no idea how you shoot weddings with RF, must be a lot of practice!

I had a lot of mis-focus shots, some moments lost..... Plus, wa lau, I think I'm slightly feeling crossed eye after shooting the wedding :bsmilie:

 

[ckuang]

looking good! especially love those black and white images in the church!

 

[lightrules]

You got some great moments !

although rangefinder itself doesnt really make the difference, you could have done
it all with DSLR.

But you instincts is great....much better than a lot of full timers I have seen.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

looking good! especially love those black and white images in the church!

Thank you master! Very encouraging words from you. Got alot more to learn!

Only the first 2 are on film, the rest are digital.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

You got some great moments !

although rangefinder itself doesnt really make the difference, you could have done
it all with DSLR.

But you instincts is great....much better than a lot of full timers I have seen.

Thanks. Basically what I did is just position myself around where I think there would be some nice moments & just focus & wait for something to happen before firing the shutter away.

Sometimes wait until tired, bring the camera down to rest my eyes, alamak, got moment, missed......

Actually I missed quite alot of shots as well, I didnt wanna get in the way of the official wedding photographer doing his job, can understand the fustration when you have a great moment & someone jumps in the frame.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

more from the church on film with 15mm:

 

[lightrules]

Thanks. Basically what I did is just position myself around where I think there would be some nice moments & just focus & wait for something to happen before firing the shutter away.

Sometimes wait until tired, bring the camera down to rest my eyes, alamak, got moment, missed......

Actually I missed quite alot of shots as well, I didnt wanna get in the way of the official wedding photographer doing his job, can understand the fustration when you have a great moment & someone jumps in the frame.

YES, that's the right attitude
ANTICIPATION not machine-gun.

To keep out of the way of official photographer, I suggest that if he is in front, you go to the back...if he is at the back, you go to the front...You will be surprised by what nice candid shots you can get by doing just that.

That's what I would expect from my second shooter.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

YES, that's the right attitude
ANTICIPATION not machine-gun.

To keep out of the way of official photographer, I suggest that if he is in front, you go to the back...if he is at the back, you go to the front...You will be surprised by what nice candid shots you can get by doing just that.

That's what I would expect from my second shooter.

oh ok.

Most of the time I stayed behind the official wedding photographer, was afraid I would be in his frame if I'm in front of him. Didnt want to make his job any harder

 

[artspraken]

I am going to visit the ballroom early, and pre-plan all the positioning. Where to stand etc.

Planning helps anticipation.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

I am going to visit the ballroom early, and pre-plan all the positioning. Where to stand etc.

Planning helps anticipation.

Hmmm

Usually when 1/2 way through the first dish, the couple should be walking in. Just position yourself somewhere on the walk way & pre-focus first.

After the walk in, they would be on the stage for the cutting of the wedding cake.

2nd walk in gotta pay attention to the MC on the stage. After walk in, up the stage again for champagne pouring followed by the traditional toast on the stage with family members

 

[ZoomP]

I must say Master ckuang, I have no idea how you shoot weddings with RF, must be a lot of practice!

I had a lot of mis-focus shots, some moments lost..... Plus, wa lau, I think I'm slightly feeling crossed eye after shooting the wedding :bsmilie:

Bro, u sure it's not the drinks from the nite before? Lovely shots? U pushed the film? What stops? I noticed I've more confident using my M8 for wedding shots. No time to adjust the speed dial. Just set my aperture and shoot away.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Bro, u sure it's not the drinks from the nite before? Lovely shots? U pushed the film? What stops? I noticed I've more confident using my M8 for wedding shots. No time to adjust the speed dial. Just set my aperture and shoot away.

Hahahahaha! No la, the night before was just light drinking at the RF.SG event.

Heavy drinking was at the wedding dinner itself.

These are actually shot on digital M8. Only the wide angle ones are on film. I used Tri-X 400 pushed to 1600.

Get M7 lor, or Hexar RF or Zeiss then just use the AE & fire away. I wouldnt be able to shoot all these without AE.

Focusing fast is the key factor for the weddings & alot of anticipation on where the moments will happen.

 

[artspraken]

I foresee a need to use smaller aperture to leave a margin for manual focusing.

Wide open shooting is going to risk getting blurred shots

 

[ZoomP]

Hahahahaha! No la, the night before was just light drinking at the RF.SG event.

Heavy drinking was at the wedding dinner itself.

These are actually shot on digital M8. Only the wide angle ones are on film. I used Tri-X 400 pushed to 1600.

Get M7 lor, or Hexar RF or Zeiss then just use the AE & fire away. I wouldnt be able to shoot all these without AE.

Focusing fast is the key factor for the weddings & alot of anticipation on where the moments will happen.

Erh... Light drinking? That's not what I saw or heard that nite bro.

Yeah... Manual focusing and adjustment pretty slow in a wedding event. Maybe Ckuang can shed some light if he uses non-AE RF.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

I foresee a need to use smaller aperture to leave a margin for manual focusing.

Wide open shooting is going to risk getting blurred shots

Yep, I think F4 or F5.6 should be forgiving should you focus slightly off, DOF still there.

Problem is you gotta up the ISO of your M9, hows the noise like for the M9? M8 gets noisy after crossing the iso640.

Another way would be using Tri-X 400 pushed to 1600 & shoot at F4?

I shot wide open at F1.1 on the Nokton on all shots :bsmilie: Bokeh wanking whole day from day till night

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Erh... Light drinking? That's not what I saw or heard that nite bro.

Yeah... Manual focusing and adjustment pretty slow in a wedding event. Maybe Ckuang can shed some light if he uses non-AE RF.

Hahahaha! Dunno lei, that day at RF.SG was alright but I think I didnt hold the mike close up enough.

Oh yea, the first few slides, I did stumble around man, wa lau, being up there with so many people staring up at you is serious stuff! haha! I thought it was gonna be alright at first but when I got up there, wa lau, different situation all together. sweating la :sweat:

 

[ckuang]

Erh... Light drinking? That's not what I saw or heard that nite bro.

Yeah... Manual focusing and adjustment pretty slow in a wedding event. Maybe Ckuang can shed some light if he uses non-AE RF.

Hi ZoomP, yes, I shoot with a non-AE RF, my Leica MP. I've recently been messing around with an M9, but even for that i find it easier to switch to full manual. I actually find AE very difficult because

1. I never really know what the meter is metering off, so i am always second guessing the camera's meter
2. In camera meters have this crazy tendency to jump around in exposure value just because there's suddenly a bright source of light in the frame.

To make things easier for myself, I just set the camera to manual exposure if shooting on the M9 or MP, then before the event, I measure the variations in light at the venue with a handheld meter. From there I can more or less guess if the subject is passing in areas of light or dark to speed up or slow down my shutter speed to compensate. I find this way much easier than trying to leave it to the AE exposure. If i'm not sure and don't have time to pull out my handheld meter, I just meter off my hand and then overexpose by 1 stop because my skin is generally lighter toned. This technique takes care of exposure so all i need to think about is focusing and composition. Hope this helps.

 

[ZoomP]

Hi ZoomP, yes, I shoot with a non-AE RF, my Leica MP. I've recently been messing around with an M9, but even for that i find it easier to switch to full manual. I actually find AE very difficult because

1. I never really know what the meter is metering off, so i am always second guessing the camera's meter
2. In camera meters have this crazy tendency to jump around in exposure value just because there's suddenly a bright source of light in the frame.

To make things easier for myself, I just set the camera to manual exposure if shooting on the M9 or MP, then before the event, I measure the variations in light at the venue with a handheld meter. From there I can more or less guess if the subject is passing in areas of light or dark to speed up or slow down my shutter speed to compensate. I find this way much easier than trying to leave it to the AE exposure. If i'm not sure and don't have time to pull out my handheld meter, I just meter off my hand and then overexpose by 1 stop because my skin is generally lighter toned. This technique takes care of exposure so all i need to think about is focusing and composition. Hope this helps.

Makes perfect sense bro!!! Thanks!