A question to the admin.
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Even though student has indicated that he will not be back to this thread I feel that there is some discrepencies in expectations and also some misunderstandings that I should clarify.
I believe it is beyond the job scope of the admins and mods to deal with "this", if "this" refers to personal disputes between CS members in general. Our policy is simple. Settle private issues in private.
As stated earlier if Astin had simply posted a thread asking for Bobman to contact him without spilling out the details of the dispute in public, we would have left that thread alone.
We are not in the position to propose any specific mechanism for CS members to settle their private disputes. We do offer a PM system as an alternative for members to communicate and settle private issues, but there is never any intent to offer that as a guaranteed workable means of settling an issue. It is entirely the choice of the members to use it, as long as they do not try to settle such issues in public.
I said that it is OK to use the forum to get the attention of the party one is trying to get in touch with. I did not say it is OK to post in public to draw attention to an issue, if by "drawing attention" student is referring to "drawing the public's attention".
To elaborate further, it is OK to post a thread saying "So-and-so please contact me by phone/PM/email/SMS to discuss a matter between us". A member posting this is trying to get the attention of the party he/she is trying to get a response from. What the member has done to try to get in touch outside if CS is irrelevant.
It is not OK to post a thread saying "So-and-so please contact me as I want you to return the $x you still owe me." By posting this the member has drawn the public's attention to the issue.
Yes, that the right interpretation.
I did not say or indicate that. It is not appropriate for anyone to violate an established rule out of frustration. Again, student's words are kind of vague. I wished he had defined "draw attention" more clearly.
What Astin and student did to "draw attention" was deemed inappropriate under the CS policy.
I believe it is beyond the job scope of the admins and mods to deal with "this", if "this" refers to personal disputes between CS members in general. Our policy is simple. Settle private issues in private.
As stated earlier if Astin had simply posted a thread asking for Bobman to contact him without spilling out the details of the dispute in public, we would have left that thread alone.
We are not in the position to propose any specific mechanism for CS members to settle their private disputes. We do offer a PM system as an alternative for members to communicate and settle private issues, but there is never any intent to offer that as a guaranteed workable means of settling an issue. It is entirely the choice of the members to use it, as long as they do not try to settle such issues in public.
student said:
I said that it is OK to use the forum to get the attention of the party one is trying to get in touch with. I did not say it is OK to post in public to draw attention to an issue, if by "drawing attention" student is referring to "drawing the public's attention".
To elaborate further, it is OK to post a thread saying "So-and-so please contact me by phone/PM/email/SMS to discuss a matter between us". A member posting this is trying to get the attention of the party he/she is trying to get a response from. What the member has done to try to get in touch outside if CS is irrelevant.
It is not OK to post a thread saying "So-and-so please contact me as I want you to return the $x you still owe me." By posting this the member has drawn the public's attention to the issue.
student said:
Yes, that the right interpretation.
student said:
I did not say or indicate that. It is not appropriate for anyone to violate an established rule out of frustration. Again, student's words are kind of vague. I wished he had defined "draw attention" more clearly.
What Astin and student did to "draw attention" was deemed inappropriate under the CS policy.
Oh please!!!! Talking about yourself?
In Wars or Battles there is NO clear winner ....:think:
I PM you courteously to ask you to stay away from this thread and you wrote back to insult me and abuse me with your words.
Bobman said:
You said you are a FRIEND of student, so? Wasn't I a friend of him too? I don't blame you since you only see things with one eye open, that you can't see the whole picture.
Who doesn't know I was his friend too? Why we landed to this stage? Because I refuse to agree with all his views, I refuse to lick his boots and carry his balls. That's why!
Do you know how it begin? Just because of ONE PHOTO!!!!! An overexposed, blown out and no detailed photo. Many people engage in the discussion, we talked about walk before run, and about learning the basic, the technique etc.... Just because I did not support him, instead spoke againist him, I became his enemy.
Although I cannot write better than any of you or do not have much knowledge in photography or cannot take good photos, but I am not someone that will follow blindly or simply agree just because you are my friends. Only hypocrates do!
This was the last statement from your PM, I did not make up story to flame you.
singscott said:
Good luck being his friend
Ya, why we can't just tolerate each other and if there is unhappiness, we can meet up and talk it over with a cup of coffee?
Do I need to say more. I dun want to say anything may be just that comment about the battle and war thingy. I told you kept away from me I will do the same in private. But you have to bring this all for a show. I am going to show some restraint. I am not going into a flame war with you, you know why. Because you are not worth it.
You have a bad memory about things, as long you get your facts right go ahead knock yourself out make a bigger ego of yourself then you are. Remember state the facts correctly ok I reserve the right to sue you if there misleading facts. I will not take part or put any effort in any thread you start. If necessary the next thing you will hear from me will come from my lawyers. So like I say between us silence is golden.
You have a bad memory about things, as long you get your facts right go ahead knock yourself out make a bigger ego of yourself then you are. Remember state the facts correctly ok I reserve the right to sue you if there misleading facts. I will not take part or put any effort in any thread you start. If necessary the next thing you will hear from me will come from my lawyers. So like I say between us silence is golden.
I very scare ahhhhh.... SUE ME PLEASE!!!!!!
You want my full particulars? I can fax one to you......
You had so much insulted and abused me in your PM and calling me names. You asked me to be silence? I send you a courtesy note to ask you to leave us alone, in reply you insulted and abused me with words and now you want to threatended me with lawyers.
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Someone said cannot use this word; "Who the FK are you!!!" Sorry Singscott, I am sorry to use this word on you, very very sorry.....
Rephrase:
Who are you!!!!
Oh sorry miss out some words on last message. Why show the part that make you look good. Show the whole thing we wrote in PM. The friend part was misleading, oh the thing about the one eye is that an insult and me licking student private oh my lawyers will love those as well. Please bear that in mind in any farther comment you want to make about us. The facts about my beef with you got nothing to do with Student anyone can see that from our PMs. I choose to give you leeway by not showing them and keep them private. It only show what kind of person you are?
One eye is not an insult, dun you ever come across people say. open one eye close one eye. open one ear, close one ear. Its a common saying and not an insult. If you take it as an insult, then what you want me to say?
Did I say u licking student pte part???? I said I refused to lick his boots and carry his balls...
Let me tell you what??? Go to your lawyer tomorrow...don't waste so much time talking here...
You are in my ignore list too.... Happy writing :blah:
It's amazing...I got 2 Ss in my ignore list.....hahahahaha
Who am I is not important. I am a dirt, I am a lowest form of human beings, I am a rascal, I am an idiot, I am a fool, I am a Bxxxd, I am a Sxxt, I am a etc etc etc ...... these are just names given. Oftentimes, people pays too much attention on "Self", they forgotten humanity.......
" What differentiates human from animals are we have the ability to think and reasons......"
If what Bobman said in the above is true, then it seems that the problem is about people holding different views. Remember that it is DIFFFERENCES that will bring about new changes. If everybody hold the same opinion, then this world will be a very boring place to live in.
Then can i ask a FAQ?
What is the difference between a photo produce by a pro and a newbie? Akin to an abstract art painting which is drawn by a very pro, very well-known artist which seems like my 3 yrs old nephew can produce, maybe even better????
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