5700 or D70?

[espn]

Can get the angle finder attachment for low shots. For high shots.. guess you have to bring along a ladder.. Buy the D70 ! Buy Buy Buy ! :devil:

Basket! You again!!! majere2sg :kok: :blah: Hahaha. No need angle attachment lah... pretty confident to just hold and shoot nowadays. With the 5700/8700 it is pretty more convenient cos got swivel.

Get a 2nd hand fm2 and 50/1.8 and the rest of the money for films.

and wait for the D80,90,110 etc

Wait forever? :think: Frankly it's up to the person to feel what he needs more. To many a SLR means many lenses which in turn means BUY BUY BUY/SELL SELL SELL, for many they feel a 1-3 lenses is more than enough and stop there. So it's a individual preference, most importantly... is what you want to shoot, that will help your choice in selection of lenses.

Cheers.. I crapped too much liao

 

[simonth]

thanks guys for all ur comments. really appreciate it. hope one day can meet some of u guys on one of the outings.

so seems like it is really up to me (of course, who else is paying :bsmilie: ).

D70 is indeed a more worth getting than 5700 or 8700 in terms of its image quality, options for manual control and newer technology used(?)

but could it be a step too big for a beginner or amateur photographer to upgrade from a automatic control, LCD-used-when-taking-photos, non-changable lens (no requirement of lens knowledge)

to a professional with manual and advanced camera? :sweat:

 

[simonth]

also i might be getting one of them during the IT show on 11mar at suntec.

dun know whether there will be more freedies together with purchase of cameras?

do u think Nikon will have a strong presence during this show to showcase d70? any of u guys will be there?

 

[yowch]

Buying a "professional" cam doesn't make a person pro, and a professional handling a basic camera is still a professional. Buy according to your needs, of your future needs, if you can see a little further into the future.

I know of people spending thousand plus on a cam, like the G2 or the 5700, yet only shoot in auto mode. Similarly, there are those using basic cams like the A70 or CP3100 to 'play-play' while their real work involves medium format film cams worth well over ten thousand bucks.

If you are not going to be a serious hobbyist and/or going pro, save the money for something else. The 5700 or 8700 are serious enough cameras.

I am saving up to get the D70, as a step up from my 602, which has served my family and friends well, and even made some money for me.

 

[linse]

Here's my take on the subject since I use a coolpix 5000 and a D100. They are not that different from the CP5700 and D70. Like you I use them to take photos of my kids growing up.

I prefer the dSLR for the following reasons:

• Very good battery life (D70's 2000 shots versus Coolpix's <1 hour)

• Fast and accurate autofocus (With the CP, I've given up using autofocus in low light and for fast moving objects eg. kids. 2/3 of the shots ends up focused on the background. Luckily CP5000 have a numerical distance meter, the CP5700 does not therefore I'm not sure whether manual focus is usable. I know all about the ""it's not poor low light but poor contrast focusing issue" arguments but your subjects don't always wear a big target sign on them so that you can focus.)

• Depth of field (It's easier to blur out the background more on the dSLR due to the longer effective focal length. So dSLRs are better for portraits whereas the Coolpixes are better for landscape photography.)

• Higher ISO, less noise in dSLRs

• No shutter lag.

• Better flash metering. (The Coolpixes do not use TTL flash metering so you get very inconsistent flash result depending on the focal length and aperture. In fact it becomes almost unpredictable.

The disadvantage of the dSLR are:

• Size (but then I carried an SLR, tripod and flash when I toured europe for 3 weeks)

• D70/D100 images although more film-like generally needs more post processing with something like Nikon Capture if you use the matrix metering as it exposes for the highlights.

• price. (but if you are serious on photography, there's no contest between dSLR and prosumer cameras.)

 

[Beachboy]

thanks guys for all ur comments. really appreciate it. hope one day can meet some of u guys on one of the outings.

so seems like it is really up to me (of course, who else is paying :bsmilie: ).

D70 is indeed a more worth getting than 5700 or 8700 in terms of its image quality, options for manual control and newer technology used(?)

but could it be a step too big for a beginner or amateur photographer to upgrade from a automatic control, LCD-used-when-taking-photos, non-changable lens (no requirement of lens knowledge)

to a professional with manual and advanced camera? :sweat:

i am also upgrade from digital camera .... previously i was using Canon IXUS 400 i feel that there is limitation when i wan to learn to take manual photo.

also there is no option for me to upgrade the lens...

now i am already purchased the D70 .... in the mean time i learning the manual shooting .... i also can use the fully auto setting when i take picture

 

[Garion]

Basket! You again!!! majere2sg :kok: :blah: Hahaha. No need angle attachment lah... pretty confident to just hold and shoot nowadays. With the 5700/8700 it is pretty more convenient cos got swivel.

:bsmilie: But u dun really need angle finder attachement for taking models rite...can always prone on the floor as a Nikonian had demonstrated some time back...save the cash to buy something else...like the D70 for instance? :blah:

P.S btw u try out the 18-70 liao? Hows it? Mai tu liao lar...split the cost with gadrian lor.

 

[espn]

simonth: If you think a DSLR will give you better images, you're pretty wrong there, many have been the cases when a consumer DC can produce nicer images. It's really how the photographer grasps it. You can be rest assured you'll be pissed with the first 50-100 shots you take with a DSLR, so don't worry, there's a learning curve for everything, as long as you feel comfortable with the system (DC / DSLR) you're safe to go.

There are manual controls on the 5700/8700 as well, my only complain is there most and some of the functions have to be accessed through the menu although one-two buttons are configurable.

but could it be a step too big for a beginner or amateur photographer to upgrade from a automatic control, LCD-used-when-taking-photos, non-changable lens (no requirement of lens knowledge)

If you're very interested in SLRs, you're pretty safe as we all start learning somewhere. You'll learn to appreciate the use of the viewfinder after getting one anyway. Why not head down to the shop & get a feel of of the DSLRs, lenses wise... you can do a search pretty much information the net & on CS.

Think will be going to the IT show as long as it's not at EXPO again.. sigh.

:bsmilie: But u dun really need angle finder attachement for taking models rite...can always prone on the floor as a Nikonian had demonstrated some time back...save the cash to buy something else...like the D70 for instance? :blah:

P.S btw u try out the 18-70 liao? Hows it? Mai tu liao lar...split the cost with gadrian lor.

I got an offer of $400 liao... considering lah you don't keep tempting me can or not? :bsmilie:

garion :kok:

 

[cm917]

Hi Simonth,

For your case, I would recommend you use Canon Ixus 400 (or the new 410 or 500) instead of Nikon. I own both Coolpix5700 and D70 from Nikon. 5700 is really slow in the focusing, though it's image quality is very good. D70 is fantastic but will be too heavy for your wife.
I bought an Ixus 400 for my friend before and both of us had a very good experience with it. It's perfect for ladies also as it's so cute. You may want to go to www.dpreview.com to have a look at the review on it.

 

[simonth]

cm917

thanks for the advice on an alternative.
i went to dpreview but the review on ixus400 does not really recommend buying it. some of cons of ixus400 which i think i could really mind about my new camera:

- Noise at ISO 100 worse than the competition
- AF assist lamp didn't produce significantly better results in our test
i want a camera that can take good night shots

- Moderately underexposed flash shots
no room for external flash thus might be stuck with the limited internal one.

- Very few manual controls for the money
hope to explore more with photography by using manual controls like those found in slr

but anyway thanks for the suggestion. if there is an alternative to 5700,8700 or D70, then it could be canon powershot pro1. any of u guys know when it is coming out?

 

[zaren]

hi simonth,

for the same price of the canon ixus 400, or half the price of the 5700, you can get a superb 4mp prosumer camera with manual controls, low light capability and excellent image quality in a compact package. comes with 3x optical zoom (32-96mm) which should cover 90% of your shooting needs. it's even small and light enuf for your wife to use.

check out the olympus c-4000 zoom at;
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/C40/C40A.HTM

 

[simonth]

zaren

as my current nikon camera is using CF, i will be looking for camera also using CF. therefore seems like it is mostly down to 2 brands, nikon or canon or maybe sony 828