50D features vs Older 40D worth the money to you?

[evoben]

hmm..

well i have a little different point of view here.
i loaned both 40D and 50D last sat for an event and i used both body, armed with a 50-150 F2.8 and a 17-50 F2.8..

and guess what, the LCD and ISO of the 40D kinda lost me in the middle of the event..

i then just kept swapping both lenses on the 50D.

the LCD and ISO helped me in getting most of my shots..

meaning, i got a 'spot on' shot, somehow when shown on 40D, it was blurred..
but on the 50D, i got a very accurate image of the shot.

that really helped..

and coming from a ex 400D and a 1time 40D user, i would say that this 50D is very much a viable change IMHO..

my 2 cents..

 

[faineant]

Let's just rem that the 50D is limited if you use an EF-S lens. So if you think of maximizing its capabilities then you would have to spend even more for an L lens. I think if we're not so picky about details and what not, then by all means the 40D should be kept and perhaps wait for a 60D or whatever.

 

[unseen]

hmm..

well i have a little different point of view here.
i loaned both 40D and 50D last sat for an event and i used both body, armed with a 50-150 F2.8 and a 17-50 F2.8..

and guess what, the LCD and ISO of the 40D kinda lost me in the middle of the event..

i then just kept swapping both lenses on the 50D.

the LCD and ISO helped me in getting most of my shots..

meaning, i got a 'spot on' shot, somehow when shown on 40D, it was blurred..
but on the 50D, i got a very accurate image of the shot.

that really helped..

and coming from a ex 400D and a 1time 40D user, i would say that this 50D is very much a viable change IMHO..

my 2 cents..

Actually, looking at your post, I think you should work on your basic skills.
"LCD and ISO" wouldn't result in accurate shots. Esp not for an event.
:bsmilie: Think of all the "poor" souls with a 1Dmk3 etc.. they must have been getting very poor shots with a poor LCD + ISO performance

 

[unseen]

Let's just rem that the 50D is limited if you use an EF-S lens. So if you think of maximizing its capabilities then you would have to spend even more for an L lens. I think if we're not so picky about details and what not, then by all means the 40D should be kept and perhaps wait for a 60D or whatever.

Interesting. Why is the 50D limited if an EF-S lens is used?
:bsmilie: or are you one of those guys who think that.. L lens rule all?

 

[lennyl]

Let's just rem that the 50D is limited if you use an EF-S lens. So if you think of maximizing its capabilities then you would have to spend even more for an L lens. I think if we're not so picky about details and what not, then by all means the 40D should be kept and perhaps wait for a 60D or whatever.

Interesting. Why is the 50D limited if an EF-S lens is used?
:bsmilie: or are you one of those guys who think that.. L lens rule all?

unseen beat me to it. I'm puzzled by faineant's remark as well. EF-S means only short back-focus, nothing to do with optical quality. Go try a EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS or EF-S 60mm f/2.8 macro. And try to find an L equivalent of an 10-22mm.

 

[faineant]

BEATS ME TOO!! I hate spending more money. My comment was obviously based on information(whether reliable or not) because I don't do studio testing.

I just read it at camera labs(cameralabs.com I think). They did a 50D studio test with an L glass and the standard EF-S. Go check it out. There are numbers and pictures. But honestly, if you're not that discerning it doesn't matter. But if their tests are reliable and accurate then I guess the facts do speak for themselves..Unless you guys do studio testing. BTW, they did not say it was limited by ALL EF-S lenses, maybe just some or in their test the 18-200. I doubt anyone's going to test all EF-S vs. EF on a same Canon body.

And no i'm not an L supporter or whatever I'm just a guy who takes photos with a Canon. So I know your EF-S lenses are good and I know EF lenses are more expensive. To the naked eye it might be hard to see any difference at all. I have an EF-S lens as well! So of course I was perplexed by cameralabs.com testing too.

Cheers mates!

 

[calebk]

...So I know your EF-S lenses are good and I know EF lenses are more expensive...

This is so not true...

 

[faineant]

Let's just rem that the 50D is limited if you use an EF-S lens. So if you think of maximizing its capabilities then you would have to spend even more for an L lens. I think if we're not so picky about details and what not, then by all means the 40D should be kept and perhaps wait for a 60D or whatever.

Apologies for the sweeping statement. It was a comparison done by cameralabs on EF-S 18-200 vs. EF 24-105 :angel:

Cheers

 

[evoben]

Actually, looking at your post, I think you should work on your basic skills.
"LCD and ISO" wouldn't result in accurate shots. Esp not for an event.
:bsmilie: Think of all the "poor" souls with a 1Dmk3 etc.. they must have been getting very poor shots with a poor LCD + ISO performance

hahaa.. thanks dude..
well, i am a newbie...

i don't know how to explain it but to me, the 50D did do the work and i have a happy customer too

but yup, think it's time to change my thinking and look at histogram instead

 

[gman23xx]

Well, the 50D has been recently just launched. Usually most people get the 2nd batch of newly released items. But that doesn't mean that 1st batches are plagued with problems.


For me if it was possible, I'll get the 50D, but after reading much of it, and making certain differences between the 40D and the 50D, i can conclude, both cameras are pretty much of the same, except for some differences on the 50D. I would say the screen on the 50D is really sharp. Noise reduction on the 50D is good as well.


Since you are a DSLR user for quite a long time i think these differences aren't much of a problem to you. Then again you are the user and you should ask yourself what you need. Sometimes temptation kicks in. Of course the 50D is newer and it's always nice to have the latest product.:bsmilie:


Go with what your heart and soul says. Doesn't matter what equipment you have, in the end its the man behind the camera and his knowledge to utilize what he has with him.


I do understand your dilemma. Something i experienced when i bought my 450D. Though the price difference between the 50D and the 40D is about a few hundred dollars:bigeyes:, you should think carefully if you really wish to spend the extra dollars on the camera or say, maybe a new lens? Then again if the 40D is out of stock, you can either get the 50D or wait.


Good luck in making your decision and purchase.:sweatsm:


gman

 

[gman23xx]

Funny, CP told me the 40D is supposed to be replaced by the 50D and that they won't be selling 40D anymore.

CP says all sort of funny things. They even wanted to sell me the battery grip at $229.


gman

 

[lennyl]

i can conclude, both cameras are pretty much of the same, except for some differences on the 50D.

I'm sorry, I just had to laugh when reading that sentence. I know what you mean, but it came across like something Dan Quayle might have said

 

[aungzawwin]

;pexciting new features over 40D..but rather wait until 60D showed up

 

[gman23xx]

I'm sorry, I just had to laugh when reading that sentence. I know what you mean, but it came across like something Dan Quayle might have said

Err...i don't copy from people, so what i write is from me. Who is Dan Quayle?


gman

 

[lennyl]

Err...i don't copy from people, so what i write is from me. Who is Dan Quayle?

No, not saying you're copying from anyone, just meant that it was similar to the really strange things he had said. "They're similar except for the differences" is not exactly providing a lot of information

Dan Quayle was Vice President of US from 1988 to 1992. And is known for saying the funniest things (search for Dan Quayle quotes if you're interested). The one that comes to mind is actually not by him (according to Snopes) but often attributed to him as something he would say "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure".

Just a little humor, no malice intended. If you don't find it funny, that's understandable - many people find my sense of humor a little warped anyway.

Anyway, to get back to topic:

I'm finally seeing 50D in the stores around here (there's actually a demo unit in Fry's) but everyone's still selling at full retail - US$1399 for body only. The 40D can be found for around US$900 - pretty much unchanged from before the 50D is announced, and US$200 below MSRP. US$500 or 55% more for 50% more pixels, high resolution VGA screen, a faster processor, UDMA support and firmware updates.

Edit : just after I posted it appeared that Amazon dropped their body only price to $1335. I think they're tormenting me.

 

[gman23xx]

No, not saying you're copying from anyone, just meant that it was similar to the really strange things he had said. "They're similar except for the differences" is not exactly providing a lot of information

Dan Quayle was Vice President of US from 1988 to 1992. And is known for saying the funniest things (search for Dan Quayle quotes if you're interested). The one that comes to mind is actually not by him (according to Snopes) but often attributed to him as something he would say "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure".

Just a little humor, no malice intended. If you don't find it funny, that's understandable - many people find my sense of humor a little warped anyway.

Anyway, to get back to topic:

I'm finally seeing 50D in the stores around here (there's actually a demo unit in Fry's) but everyone's still selling at full retail - US$1399 for body only. The 40D can be found for around US$900 - pretty much unchanged from before the 50D is announced, and US$200 below MSRP. US$500 or 55% more for 50% more pixels, high resolution VGA screen, a faster processor, UDMA support and firmware updates.

Edit : just after I posted it appeared that Amazon dropped their body only price to $1335. I think they're tormenting me.

Oh...haha...i get the relation...pardon me.


gman

 

[Semajmis]

50D has one more extra feature at the moment.... Err99.. if you like this feature then it is worth.. lol :bsmilie:

 

[Headshotzx]

50D has one more extra feature at the moment.... Err99.. if you like this feature then it is worth.. lol :bsmilie:

Google Search: 40D Err99

Results 1 - 10 of about 87,700 for 40D err 99. (0.34 seconds)

Results 1 - 10 of about 27,500 for 50D err99. (0.27 seconds)

Hehe

 

[Flashbulb]

do you believe the 100k shutter lifespan?

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos50d/03.html

 

[Headshotzx]

do you believe the 100k shutter lifespan?

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/eos50d/03.html

Why not? xxxD series have 50k lifespan. 1D series have 150 - 300k lifespan.

There are too many people who have their camera shutters go beyond twice that of the lifespan and still be strong, while there are also reports of shutters failing before half of the shutter lifespan.