50D features vs Older 40D worth the money to you?
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lennyl
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At least it has a different sensor and image processor. What are your thoughts on the 30D? Should it be called the 20.1D then?
40D user here, got it for about a year already.
To me 50D is not worth the dough.
MP wise, the increase doesn't make sense to me. I never use the full pictures anyway and normally downsize the pictures. The largest I print is a bit smaller than A3.
While the rest of the features won't make the difference to me.
DIGIC IV? I think it's a marketing gimmick some how. 300D had DIGIC, 40D has DIGIC III. The company can always rename the chip to signify upgrade but just changed a fraction of the functions (at least to my opinion).
LCD? May help but I trust my eyes more as I belonged to the old time film shooter. I only use LCD to look at composition and settings/graphs.
I'll probably wait for maybe 60D or 70D instead... or unless my 40D died (choy choy!!!)
To me 50D is not worth the dough.
MP wise, the increase doesn't make sense to me. I never use the full pictures anyway and normally downsize the pictures. The largest I print is a bit smaller than A3.
While the rest of the features won't make the difference to me.
DIGIC IV? I think it's a marketing gimmick some how. 300D had DIGIC, 40D has DIGIC III. The company can always rename the chip to signify upgrade but just changed a fraction of the functions (at least to my opinion).
LCD? May help but I trust my eyes more as I belonged to the old time film shooter. I only use LCD to look at composition and settings/graphs.
I'll probably wait for maybe 60D or 70D instead... or unless my 40D died (choy choy!!!)
Well... my calculations is very different.
50D now cost $600 more than 40D,
After using it for a one or two years,
if you are going to sell your camera,
Obviously, you will sell your 50D at a price approximately $300 more than a 40D
in the end.... its just a $300 difference to enjoy the newer product
50D now cost $600 more than 40D,
After using it for a one or two years,
if you are going to sell your camera,
Obviously, you will sell your 50D at a price approximately $300 more than a 40D
in the end.... its just a $300 difference to enjoy the newer product
I don't really get your reasoning. :dunno:
As Kit mentioned in an earlier post, you don't buy a camera to make money or save money on it (i.e. intending to sell off after a short while) You buy it to make pictures. Either way, no matter which model you buy, you will still lose money. The current depreciation rate is very steep. It doesn't really make a big difference in the end. So your points are moot.
In the end it boils down to how you make use of your so called "investment". A well-used 40D with 80,000 shutter clicks but giving you a lifetime of visual memories and enjoyment or a sparingly used 50D mostly sitting pretty in the dry cabi waiting to be sold off for the next upgrade?
Headshotzx
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Eh? I linked that on my first post already.
peterpan1975
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Justifying the cost of upgrading from 40D to 50D was like asking a person who owns a car, drive a car but still want to change a car. Its up to each person point of view. 40D not good not happy with it then upgrade. If not just stuck with the current system. Why bother of asking unless you thinking of upgrading and need SUPPORT from some ppl to justify the COST. So Like what NIKE ad
<<<<< JUST DO IT !!! >>>>>>>
<<<<< JUST DO IT !!! >>>>>>>
Headshotzx
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If you're questioning the intention of purchasing the 50D, here's my simple take.
The poll question is clearly about YOUR opinion ie "50D new features over 40D, do you think it's worth it?"
used the 40D before, handled the 50D for awhile.
end of the day, do you need the improved features of the 50D? to be brutally honest i think canon just cannibalized their 40D sales(or were they intending to? considering they share many modular parts, the cannibalization might just be good for canon, more parts for 50D and a greater profit margin?)
i voted yes, because i have seen and handled the 50D, its brilliant screen, better iso performance, a much better LV and a nicer menu UI;p
but saying all this, i just bought a 20D, why? cause its cheap, its good, and the price difference to a 40D just isnt worth the dough. *saves for the 35L
To Ts:from a rebel series, to a 50D, as compared to getting a new 70-200/2.8 IS, the 70-200 gets my vote for superb performance and 2.8, not to mention, white PRO lense makes you look and feel more pro than SEMI pro body right!:thumbsup:
have fun shooting! and get a good backpack, 70-200/2.8 IS breaks backs:bsmilie:
end of the day, do you need the improved features of the 50D? to be brutally honest i think canon just cannibalized their 40D sales(or were they intending to? considering they share many modular parts, the cannibalization might just be good for canon, more parts for 50D and a greater profit margin?)
i voted yes, because i have seen and handled the 50D, its brilliant screen, better iso performance, a much better LV and a nicer menu UI;p
but saying all this, i just bought a 20D, why? cause its cheap, its good, and the price difference to a 40D just isnt worth the dough. *saves for the 35L
To Ts:from a rebel series, to a 50D, as compared to getting a new 70-200/2.8 IS, the 70-200 gets my vote for superb performance and 2.8, not to mention, white PRO lense makes you look and feel more pro than SEMI pro body right!:thumbsup:
have fun shooting! and get a good backpack, 70-200/2.8 IS breaks backs:bsmilie:
sanfong
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I read a line before, maybe its from Canon's Boss, he mentioned lens is not the accessories but it is the body. So as someone mentioned here, he feels lens is primary which is quite true and agreeable. Although the processor (which is Digic 3 and Digic 4) and the contruction of the sensor is important for imaging, but no point jumping over a side step, I personally feel that aim for bigger step such as Digic 5 or FF, so no point changing ur accessories for slight improvement, spare some cash for the furture.
Afterall the vision for creativity its still lies behind the camera.
Afterall the vision for creativity its still lies behind the camera.
shahrulesa
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If you look at it, 50D has better features than 40D but that doesn't mean you have to upgrade every time there's a new xxD, I think Canon would want those who are using xxxD to jump to xxD and those with xxD to go to 5DII now - since the pricing will be over 1k more (but the cost is probably not that much off).
adrianongs
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Does that means we have to change a new camera annually?
sanfong
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Waiting for 5DII to be launched, and price of 50D drop, it will be a perfect Chrismas present.
If the 5DII price is less than $2k, it will be a god's present for me hahahaha... Dream on...
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Singaporean consumers are very price sensitive but some people just have got their economics totally wrong. If you got a 40D its a sunk cost. Whatever you paid for it should not matter. It's more of how much you value the 50D. If you value it at $1.7K then wait for the value to drop. Price differences between products are unimportant. Especially so for a 40D that has already been paid for. So essentially if you sell your 40D and get a 50D you are gaining new technology for less price. You're not supposed to : ($50D price - $40D price = Difference) and try to justify the difference. [Btw if you think otherwise, I'm basing my reasoning on economic theory not my own.]
But I just think that both are good cameras and one is obviously better than the other.(no matter how incremental).
At the end of the day you're taking photos.... not cutting costs....
But I just think that both are good cameras and one is obviously better than the other.(no matter how incremental).
At the end of the day you're taking photos.... not cutting costs....
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Well-said. My sentiments. They can call it "DIGIV V XTSi Turbo Plus" or "DIGIC 10TsiX Supreme" or whatever, I really don't care. All these are technology jargons that do not translate much to us consumers after the image is taken. I'm not saying DIGIC III and DIGIC IV has no difference, but can you ever look a picture or use a camera and say, Great, I love my new 50D cos it comes with DIGIC Supremo and that helps me take better pics or make my pictures more vibrant? No.
Same goes with the LCD, yes, Canon suck by coming out so late with a high res LCD (I feel they should have done it with the 40D and 450D) but that does not warrant an upgrade from 40D to 50D. More MP?? Ha, I see that more as a burden, eating up my hard-disk space unnecessarily and for me to have a much faster comp processor.
Also, the 50D's high ISO ain't a lot more impressive. I'm sure the 60D will correct that. Right now, Canon is playing an irritating marketing game by coming up with all these high MP cams (5D MkII also). For what!?
But really, it's up to you. I wonder why people tend to analyse the upgrading issue to such a detailed way, down to how you can save or lose, etc etc. It's a no-brainer question whether to buy it or not. Do you need stuffs from the 50D that the 40D can't do? Will you die without the 50D or your shots seriously need the features found in the 50D? I wonder why it's so hard to decide......
I'm ok if anyone is chasing after technology. Maybe we singaporeans are so darn rich, that could be part of the reason. If getting the latest is your cup of tea, I don't see why you should worry: "Should I upgrade to a 50D?" Just buy it! It makes you feel good. It's ok. Many people here spend $50-100k on cars like nothing even though they don't need it. An upgrade to 50D is chicken feed.
Personally, I don't find there to be any more motivation to upgrade so quickly. It's unlike say 5-6years ago where MP is so limited. Canon D30 produced 3MP. But at 8-10MP these days, you're getting a lot of real estate to print or view nice images.
I think what will really please me (and many discerning photographers) is to price DSLRs at a much affordable rate and maybe come up with a kick a** smooth pixels at high ISO. How about ISO3200 at the quality of ISO400 that we get in today's cams? That will really make my day.
It's also just a matter of time when a FF cam sells for $2k and mid ranged APS-C cams cost only $1000 or so. That will make a sweet upgrade too.
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