Hi all! I'm using M9 for just about a year now and found that 35mm is all i need. have tried CV 1.2 and its really good, but its just too heavy! now i'm just using the CV 1.4 which is quite ok but now looking for an extra punch! So given my constraint in budget, which glass do u guys think would be best? of course i want sharpness and bokeh!! maybe more sharpness this time cos i tried the 50mm pre-asph already.. =)
35mm Choice: Summilux pre-asph or Summicron Asph? or..?
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For sharpness for certain it will be the 35 Summicron ASPH which is more or less a perfect lens.
For glow and character wide open, take the 35 Summilux Pre ASPH.
If don't mind the cost, get the Summilux ASPH FLE!Got sharpness and bokeh!
I actually prefer the 35 Lux ASPH V1 over the FLE... there's more character and "magic" in the V1 wide open.
Honestly, so far, 7-8000 shots on, I haven't been bothered one bit by any focus shift issues.
if u like real sharpness.. cron asph is ur choice over lux pre-asph for sure..
lux pre-asph is a weird lens, f2, f1.4 got glow, but 2.8 or so will kind of disappear but still decently sharp to me not asph sharp of course..
depends on your budget.. if ur budget less than 4k, no need to consider any lux asph liao..
lux pre-asph is a weird lens, f2, f1.4 got glow, but 2.8 or so will kind of disappear but still decently sharp to me not asph sharp of course..
depends on your budget.. if ur budget less than 4k, no need to consider any lux asph liao..
Double Negative
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Also, don't underestimate the Voigtländer 35mm f/1.2 Nokton... A relatively inexpensive lens with a great look wide open that's reasonably sharp as well. Granted, it's on the large side.
As for the Leica options - basically what everyone above said. Choose "character" or "sharpness" and compare with your budget.
As for the Leica options - basically what everyone above said. Choose "character" or "sharpness" and compare with your budget.
cron asph is also more ergonomic, better built. It is sharper but also gives pleasing look. I put it better than v4.
lux pre is for special effect, need to test few copies for the best because they can be different.
Actually I find the "glow" pretty irritating... but everyone has their preference la.
I've used the Cron ASPH and it's really good as compared to the other Crons... I personally feel that the bokeh king is way too overrated (yes I owned that for a while too). The only thing I don't like about the Cron ASPH is that it gives very contrasty shots - I prefer my base files to have less contrast and then I work in the contrast if I like in post-pro, rather than it being very contrasty straight from the shot.
artspraken
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If you like sharpness, stay away from Lux pre-ASPH and steel rim.
If you are interested in cron ASPH, you can consider (i) Zeiss Biogon F2 [much cheaper] and (ii) cron v4 bokeh king [smaller] as alternatives.
The difference between cron ASPH and cron v4 is not obvious to (my) naked eye. Even when pixel peeping, I struggled to discern the difference. See Erwin Put's book and google for comparisons. There is a clear reason why used cron ASPH is about same price as cron v4. The key advantage of cron v4 for me is that it is smaller. Of course, if you can find a cron v1, that is good too.
If you want sharpness, you should also consider 35mm Zeiss F2.8.
If you are interested in cron ASPH, you can consider (i) Zeiss Biogon F2 [much cheaper] and (ii) cron v4 bokeh king [smaller] as alternatives.
The difference between cron ASPH and cron v4 is not obvious to (my) naked eye. Even when pixel peeping, I struggled to discern the difference. See Erwin Put's book and google for comparisons. There is a clear reason why used cron ASPH is about same price as cron v4. The key advantage of cron v4 for me is that it is smaller. Of course, if you can find a cron v1, that is good too.
If you want sharpness, you should also consider 35mm Zeiss F2.8.
I'd go with a classic rendition anytime! Or perhaps, the often under-rated Summaron... don't you ever wonder why Leica no longer make lenses like that? :think:
magicianhisoka
Senior Member
Sadly not enough demand I guess. Just about everyone wants sharpness nowadays :/
That I totally agree... most folks think that f2.8 cannot make it, must be at least f2 and below! :kok: :wink: :bigeyes: :vhappy:
well, if your criteria is "sharpness and bokeh", the nokton 35mm f/1.2 v2 suites the build... but you say it's too big for you.
if you're looking for "punch" wideopen, the Summilux pre-asph may not be your lens. the Summicron ASPH is an excellent lens that packs a solid "punch"... for a little more from a price of a new Summicron ASPH, you can top up a little for a 2h Summilux ASPH v1. alternatively, as artspraken suggested, the Biogon is a good less expensive alternative for the f/2.
guilty... but i have to qualify that i'm an available light shooter, so fast and wide open is how i shoot.
now searching for a summicron v1, all thanks to all the poison from the boys in japan...
The guru said since I'm :lovegrin: with the magical infinity lock of the summaron, i would :heart: the v1 cron too, its a piece of engineering marvel really... and with the close focussing, its so damn tempting! :sweat: let me try to resist the poison a bit longer... oh, and there's the ever compact ms optical :sweat: :kok:
artspraken
New Member
Little eight sister
Thanks all for your inputs and toxic advice! i am really leaning towards the cron asph now.. but man.. will miss the glow and special bokehlicious shots rendered by the 50mm pre-asph lux that i used to have! but i spent much more time on the 35mm and even 28mm! Anyone experienced the 28mm cron before? dont hear much about it actually!
