24-70 F2.8L or 70-200 F4L or...

[toiletliterature]

trinity, dude, there's no way i can possible afford the 16-35 f2.8 and 70-200 f2.8 man. Thats just like 5k already? hahaha

My lens expenditure should (theoretically) be about 3k MAX

 

[DEADMETAL]

U should juz get a cam and a normal lens first, start shooting before you venture into those L lens. Unless you're a cam or lens collector.

 

[USM]

Hi guys,

I'm about to buy the 30D (i hope a 40D doesnt come out soon otherwise i'll be super sian) and was deciding on just the body.

Just planning to get only 2 lenses. One wide and one for general purpose (more portraits and street) i havent actually used a 200mm so i dont know instead of the 24-70 i should get the 70-200. The problem is, plus all the dry box and storage card and whatnot, all very expenseive.

Since you are getting the 30D body, i.e. 1.6x crop, you may consider the following combo.

1) EF-S 10-22mm
This is an unrated, hidden L lens. It's meant for the 1.6x crop cameras which will give me the perspective of 16mm on your 30D.

Moreover, it has 1 S-UD and 3 AL glasses. Like an L lens. ;p
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=148&modelid=10510

I owned these lenses, EF 17-40mm f4L, EF 16-35mm f2.8L and EF-S 10-22mm. Eventually, I sold off the first 2 lenses and keep the last one. Why? not because of optical quality, etc but because of the perspective that it gives you. Unless you have a FF camera, then you may consider the EF 17-40mm f4L. If you have more cash, then get the EF 16-35mm f2.8L. Based on your feedback, you are on a budget, do you?


2) EF 24-105mm f4L IS
A newly launched lens. Yes, it's quite expensive, almost $2,100. Having said that, it's a good lens for general purpose and street photography.

Not forgetting, it also has 1 S-UD and 3 AL glasses. ;p

With the above 2 lenses, you can still bring them out either when you are in Singapore or traveling overseas. The weight is 385g + 670g = 1055g

If you want to buy the EF 24-70 f2.8L, you may want to consider its weight. Just one lens weighs 950g. Are you sure that you wanted to bring this lens overseas for traveling?

Try out the above lenes before you decide whether you should get the EF 50mm prime for portraits. How many times r u shooting portraits? and whether 50mm is the range that u like the most? Use a zoom lens to start first, and you will know which focal length u always or use most of time. Only after which, then you will consider prime lenses.

 

[toiletliterature]

Since you are getting the 30D body, i.e. 1.6x crop, you may consider the following combo.

1) EF-S 10-22mm
This is an unrated, hidden L lens. It's meant for the 1.6x crop cameras which will give me the perspective of 16mm on your 30D.

Moreover, it has 1 S-UD and 3 AL glasses. Like an L lens. ;p
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=148&modelid=10510

I owned these lenses, EF 17-40mm f4L, EF 16-35mm f2.8L and EF-S 10-22mm. Eventually, I sold off the first 2 lenses and keep the last one. Why? not because of optical quality, etc but because of the perspective that it gives you. Unless you have a FF camera, then you may consider the EF 17-40mm f4L. If you have more cash, then get the EF 16-35mm f2.8L. Based on your feedback, you are on a budget, do you?


2) EF 24-105mm f4L IS
A newly launched lens. Yes, it's quite expensive, almost $2,100. Having said that, it's a good lens for general purpose and street photography.

Not forgetting, it also has 1 S-UD and 3 AL glasses. ;p

With the above 2 lenses, you can still bring them out either when you are in Singapore or traveling overseas. The weight is 385g + 670g = 1055g

If you want to buy the EF 24-70 f2.8L, you may want to consider its weight. Just one lens weighs 950g. Are you sure that you wanted to bring this lens overseas for traveling?

Try out the above lenes before you decide whether you should get the EF 50mm prime for portraits. How many times r u shooting portraits? and whether 50mm is the range that u like the most? Use a zoom lens to start first, and you will know which focal length u always or use most of time. Only after which, then you will consider prime lenses.

I was thinking 24-70 would do for my portraits cause its a f2.8. I went to look at 70-200 f4L but i'm not sure whether the f4 would give a nice bokeh (also, the portraits are shot indoors so it could be a problem) I can't find any 10-22mm shots on a 1.6 crop though.

The budget is about 3k for lenses. I got so many options to choose from i dunno which one to get. Guess i'll have to stick with zooms for now?

 

[Horsba85]

i'd say both the 24-70 and the 70-200 on the b&s thread. pretty sure these guys would take care of the lens when they used it. somehow just nice 3k swee swee. as for the 200mm end, you'll be surprised that it can be quite an interesting use for portraits as well.

 

[toiletliterature]

i'd say both the 24-70 and the 70-200 on the b&s thread. pretty sure these guys would take care of the lens when they used it. somehow just nice 3k swee swee. as for the 200mm end, you'll be surprised that it can be quite an interesting use for portraits as well.

Oh that would be the best. But i really need a good wide angle one on a 1.6X. Dunno whether to pick the 10-22mm as some bros have recommended, or the 17-40 f4 which i have been recommended by a friend

 

[trlnlty]

trinity, dude, there's no way i can possible afford the 16-35 f2.8 and 70-200 f2.8 man. Thats just like 5k already? hahaha

My lens expenditure should (theoretically) be about 3k MAX

haha, i just assumed that money wasnt that big of an issue according to your list that your showed..

i guess 16-35 + 70-200 f/4 will be awesome as well ..

 

[toiletliterature]

haha, i just assumed that money wasnt that big of an issue according to your list that your showed..

i guess 16-35 + 70-200 f/4 will be awesome as well ..

Oh i was just throwing out options. I could always extend budget if required. But dont see the need too. I think whats most feasible now would be a 17-40 f4L and a 85mm f1.8?

 

[toiletliterature]

Since you are getting the 30D body, i.e. 1.6x crop, you may consider the following combo.

1) EF-S 10-22mm
This is an unrated, hidden L lens. It's meant for the 1.6x crop cameras which will give me the perspective of 16mm on your 30D.

Moreover, it has 1 S-UD and 3 AL glasses. Like an L lens. ;p
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelDetailAct&fcategoryid=148&modelid=10510

I owned these lenses, EF 17-40mm f4L, EF 16-35mm f2.8L and EF-S 10-22mm. Eventually, I sold off the first 2 lenses and keep the last one. Why? not because of optical quality, etc but because of the perspective that it gives you. Unless you have a FF camera, then you may consider the EF 17-40mm f4L. If you have more cash, then get the EF 16-35mm f2.8L. Based on your feedback, you are on a budget, do you?

Hi USM, you mentioned that 10-22 is a "hidden L lens" I dont quite understand what you mean. Does it mean a lens is an L lens when it has that 1-S-UD and 3AL glass?

 

[USM]

Hi USM, you mentioned that 10-22 is a "hidden L lens" I dont quite understand what you mean. Does it mean a lens is an L lens when it has that 1-S-UD and 3AL glass?

Bro, what I meant was that the EF-S 10-22mm is actually an L lens based on its optical quality as well as the result it produces. It's just that Canon did not label it as a L lens series doesn't mean that it's no good.

 

[toiletliterature]

Bro, what I meant was that the EF-S 10-22mm is actually an L lens based on its optical quality as well as the result it produces. It's just that Canon did not label it as a L lens series doesn't mean that it's no good.

ok wait. optical quality isnt it the result? haha

Ok are there non L lenses that are known to be as good as the L ones?

 

[spartacus.ret]

Canon EF 85mm f/1.8

 

[trlnlty]

Oh i was just throwing out options. I could always extend budget if required. But dont see the need too. I think whats most feasible now would be a 17-40 f4L and a 85mm f1.8?

yes that will be a very good combination..

how i personally like 2.8 glass or faster..

even the tamron 28-75 2.8 is an extremely good lens if you want to do third party route.

both lenses that you chose have extremly good re-sale value so even if you want to upgrade you wont be losing much.

the 85mm is a wonderful portrait lens .. really sharp and fast.

 

[toiletliterature]

yes that will be a very good combination..

how i personally like 2.8 glass or faster..

even the tamron 28-75 2.8 is an extremely good lens if you want to do third party route.

both lenses that you chose have extremly good re-sale value so even if you want to upgrade you wont be losing much.

the 85mm is a wonderful portrait lens .. really sharp and fast.

wah awesome lah trinity. i'm so motivated by your comment. I guess this combination would do for now. (can't decide on the 17-40mm tho) Until i have more money to buy lenses.

Also, being the noob that i am, i just want to know how the crop factor affects the picture taken? What does it change?

 

[Belle&Sebastain]

ok wait. optical quality isnt it the result? haha

Ok are there non L lenses that are known to be as good as the L ones?

100mm macro f2.8
90mm ts/e f2.8
85mm f1.8
50mm f1.4

 

[syke]

Traditionally UD glass is only available on L lenses. Now that they are available on the EF-S 10-22mm & 17-55mm. You can say that these are the "L" equivalent for EF-S. Only thing the construction is not up to "L" standard.

Hi USM, you mentioned that 10-22 is a "hidden L lens" I dont quite understand what you mean. Does it mean a lens is an L lens when it has that 1-S-UD and 3AL glass?

 

[tywglen]

Hi, I am travelling overseas to study and I normally like to take photos of buildings, landscapes and street/daily life. I own a 350D with the 18-55 kit lens of course, and I also own a 50mm 1.8 prime. I have 2 lenses in mind, the 17-40 4L, and the 70-200 4L, which one would you guys recommend me to buy as a versatile travelling lens. I intend to buy one which I will have a higher usage for.
Also, by the way, is the 17-40 4L drastically better than the kit lens? Or is the quality of the kit lens something that could probably be lived with.
I would appreciate your in depth comments on these 2 L lenses that I have in mind.
:dunno: :bigeyes: :sweatsm:

 

[syke]

Hi, I am travelling overseas to study and I normally like to take photos of buildings, landscapes and street/daily life. I own a 350D with the 18-55 kit lens of course, and I also own a 50mm 1.8 prime. I have 2 lenses in mind, the 17-40 4L, and the 70-200 4L, which one would you guys recommend me to buy as a versatile travelling lens. I intend to buy one which I will have a higher usage for.
Also, by the way, is the 17-40 4L drastically better than the kit lens? Or is the quality of the kit lens something that could probably be lived with.
I would appreciate your in depth comments on these 2 L lenses that I have in mind.
:dunno: :bigeyes: :sweatsm:

If you like taking photos of buildings, landscapes then the 10-22mm would fit pretty nicely. Since you already have the 18-55mm I see little point getting the 17-40mm unless you are after optically better pictures.

 

[tywglen]

:lovegrin: :sweatsm: What is a lens that is most suited for street shots, and it has to be one that will be most suited to daily usage (eg a nice wide angle yet also has some zoom capability ). I only have enough money to buy one lens, and so far after reading some opinions, I have narrowed it down to 3.
1) 10-22mm
2)17-40mm F4L
3)70-200mm F4L ( think I might use this less as the focal length might be too much for constant daily usage)
I currently own a 350D with kit lens, and a 50mm F1.8 prime
:devil: