20D or 30D
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Garion said:
Under the exterior, there may be vast differences in the electronics / system. Better to get 30D instead of 20D if diff is only $300.
Lenses? not to worry. Eventually user will build his collection.
If body is inferior, even if one spends a lot on expensive lenses, it will not help.
ricohflex said:
I always thought it should be the other way around...:think: IMO Camera bodies are just external casings housing different specs and functions to cater to individual levels of photographic skills & needs. A 'humble' EOS 350D can definitely benefit from a great lens (L series), but a basic EF 18-55 'Kit' lens on a EOS 1Ds will not do it any justice....:sweat:
Bodies come and go, but our lens last through several generations of body (Camera) evolution, as the photographer's expectation in his art increases.:thumbsup:
USM said:
I second what USM said. The 30D is a significantly better camera than the 20D, although it is not a quantum leap. Whether to upgrade from 20D to 30D is not very clear, but if you are new into DSLR, then you might as well go for the 30D since its list price is so much lower than the initial 20D list price (ard 3k). (Your resale price would also be higher.) If money is really needed for lens, then consider the 350D.
Normally it would make sense to buy a second hand camera, but in the case of 30D, Canon has priced it very attractively. This advice is just based on available information, we do not have a crystal ball to tell us if Canon will sell a full frame DSLR at $1,900 six months from now.
An drew said:This advice is just based on available information, we do not have a crystal ball to tell us if Canon will sell a full frame DSLR at $1,900 six months from now.
:bigeyes: :bigeyes: Let's all pray for this day to come.
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Was quoted $2250 at John for 30d kit set leh??? No I'm confued!!!!
Razor54 said:
In the film cameras, yes. spend on lenses.
Because you can always change the film that goes into the camera.
If you need higher resolution and less grain, use low ASA film.
Not so long ago, you could choose from ASA 25 to ASA 3200 or higher You can use B+W, colour negative, slides.
In a digital SLR, the "film" is fixed.
The digital sensor and the electronics that work with it as a system cannot be changed by the consumer.
That is why no matter how well built it is, if a "pro" camera of a bygone age has only very low xx megapixels, slow autofocus sensors, lousy digital sensors, outdated electronics, poor image handling software/hardware, it will be junked; in favour of the latest digital SLR.
But actually I am aware that many have a 20D on their hands and were caught off guard by the rapid introduction of the 30D at the recent IT show.
If CS members' general opinion is that it is better to buy a used 20D rather than the new 30D, then it will be good for them. Privately they may say, [Whew! Lucky I could sell it off. ]
The one who encouraged you to buy a used 20D instead of a 30D, may then take your money from the sale and rush off immediately to buy a 30D --- quietly of course. :bsmilie:
ricohflex said:
That's why I stated that camera bodies are just external casings housing technology as they evolved....with time. No matter whether you're capturing with film or sensor, every image has to pass through the 'eye', which in photographic context, refers to the lens.
Bumping up the ISO or changing to a higher ASA film does not change the quality of the pics captured, but rather enable the sensor or the film bring up the sensitivity relative to the light received and needed by the photographer to create a certain effect (grain? B+W?) or shutter/aperture required.
In this digital age, we always see ourselves looking forward to the latest on what the manufacturers are coming up with next. That's the reason why no matter film or digital, a good quality lens will help us through the tunnel of technology.... I totally agree with you that keeping up in the DSLR race will never be an easy one :sweat: .
I'm still holding on to my two 'old' EOS film cameras, knowing that some day when I find myself unable to keep up in the megapixel race..... Perhaps, I'll pack up all my lens and dig deep into my dry cabinet for that trusty old friend....
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