1Ds III review
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xunjas
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e first case is pretty hard to find.. 2nd case would be.. ;p
Thanks for all your replies regarding my question. However, I can't help but note how people in here are so snobbish...
Personally, I have a preference for SIGMA lenses, as I have been using them eversince I started shooting. I have used Nikons before, in fact I was a Nikon user some 10 years ago. I just felt that I am merely paying more for name sake...
I feel that SIGMA has come a long way, and their lenses have improved a great deal.
What ever happened to "Doesn't really matter what one uses, quality of a photograph comes from the photographer's eyes." ??
What happened to "be sensitive to others" as someone once told me in here?
Personally, I have a preference for SIGMA lenses, as I have been using them eversince I started shooting. I have used Nikons before, in fact I was a Nikon user some 10 years ago. I just felt that I am merely paying more for name sake...
I feel that SIGMA has come a long way, and their lenses have improved a great deal.
What ever happened to "Doesn't really matter what one uses, quality of a photograph comes from the photographer's eyes." ??
What happened to "be sensitive to others" as someone once told me in here?
flipfreak
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actually the biggest problem with what u asked for is that the 2 of the lenses u wanted are for the cropped sensor cameras. so they will not fit the full frame 1ds mk iii. :bsmilie:
err.. is this thread titled "1Ds III Review" or, "Who is The Most Knowledgeable in Photographic Products" ?
it is not abt snobbishness... rather, people are telling u dat the first 2 lenses on ur list are meant for crop-factor cameras. u can use on a 1dsm3... if u like black circles ard ur pic.
flipfreak
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just wanted to point it out but since u think it doesnt matter then its fine. :bsmilie:
You are totally correct CJ about how far Sigma have come, but - and it's not an insignificant but, they are simply not built to the same standards as the Canon L lenses (optically or physically). True, in some cases the image quality beats that of the consumer grade Canon glass (but rarely when it comes to the L's). Also, the Canon FF sensor (1Ds I, II, III & 5d) is THE most demanding when it comes to highlighting the weakest part of any optic, whether it be Canon, Sigma or anything else. So, the point most people (and myself) are making here is that if you are going to pay so much for the best camera currently available then why hamstring by buying lenses that do not (and likely can not) get the most from your (not insignificant) investment.
The car example above is not quite right, it is more like buying a Ferrari and putting cheap tyres (not wheels) on it. Sure it will still go and will always be a Ferrari, but you will not be able to extract everything that the car is capable of because of the weakest link.
The car example above is not quite right, it is more like buying a Ferrari and putting cheap tyres (not wheels) on it. Sure it will still go and will always be a Ferrari, but you will not be able to extract everything that the car is capable of because of the weakest link.
xunjas
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I just asked my friend. Credit card installment is possible. Up to 36 months for Citibank card and 24 for the rest. Still had stock when the shop closed just now...hehehheseem lk today alot of ppl call but nv turn up....hmmm
which shops provide that? ;p
Actually you are correct. We were all review and talking about the 1DsMk3 until you arrive and start the OT. Oh well, free world, free speech, but it applies to you and everyone else.
I think you should go and spend the $12-13K on teh 1DSMk2. This is a watershed kind of camera, creme de de la creme, best of the class type of equipment. SIGMA will love you to death. Maybe even sell you the lens for a big discount. You should ask them to give it to you FOC.
I am sure your pictures, will be jsut as good with the Sigma lens as with a Canon L lens. I am sure no one will be able to see the difference. Best combination.
Redsun
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*snigger*;p
Hey look, forget it. I regret I ever asked...ok?
I didn't expect that I'd be considered to have gone OT just by mentioning the use f SIGMA lenses. But please, don't go thinking that I am trying to promote the brand name SIGMA.
Perhaps a new Topic Naming convention should be applied now on; 1Ds III review (restricted) - which means NO mentioning of other brands besides Canon.
I hardly joined or asked anything, or even debated on any topics. And when I asked one question about cost, I get all kinds of sarcastic wisecracks... guess I forgot this is Singapore forum...
pompous lah... kind of elitist..
err... don't bother, I won't ask again... My mistake for thinking this place "friendly"...
I didn't expect that I'd be considered to have gone OT just by mentioning the use f SIGMA lenses. But please, don't go thinking that I am trying to promote the brand name SIGMA.
Perhaps a new Topic Naming convention should be applied now on; 1Ds III review (restricted) - which means NO mentioning of other brands besides Canon.
I hardly joined or asked anything, or even debated on any topics. And when I asked one question about cost, I get all kinds of sarcastic wisecracks... guess I forgot this is Singapore forum...
pompous lah... kind of elitist..
err... don't bother, I won't ask again... My mistake for thinking this place "friendly"...
hanqiang1011
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What faults does the 40D has? Can share? Cos I planning to get one.
I think it would be the best time to buy 1dsmk2 from B&S in the future.
I'm just jumping in here, but I thought that the replies were friendly and informative. And the points made about why the lenses you are asking about are less-than-ideal seem pretty valid. Do you understand why it would not work to use a 10-20 on the 1Ds series camera? The 10-20 is designed for cropped sensors (ie: the image produced by this lens is only big enough to cover the reduced size sensors, not the full frame-sensors). The 1Ds series are full frame. I don't even know if you can mount it, but if you could you would end up with a big black circle around your photo.
As for the other lenses, it's true that the top-notch Sigma lenses are not as high quality as the top-notch Canon ones. That is not elitist, nor pompous. That's just fact.
u obviously dun get the point.
people are not disparaging sigma. rather, and i say again in case u din get it, the 1st 2 sigma lenses are NOT meant for a full-frame camera like a 1dsmk3.
if correcting u is being pompous and elitist... then we are guilty as charged.
btw, if u have been reading abt FF cameras from canon, no less than michael reichmann of luminous-landscape.com have already said that a FF camera demands much more from lenses than crop-factor cameras. hence, it is natural for canon-users of FF cams like the 1dsmk3 to turn towards L-lenses (and even then, not all L-lenses are top-drawer stuff). it is not abt being pompous. it is being practical - u pay $12K for a camera. obviously u will want to extract the best performance, rite?
CF card pin went missing and made the gremlins appear.
Here's something I'm not 100% clear on. Why are FF camera's more demanding on the lenses than sensors with a crop factor? My impression is that what is important is the lines per mm that a lens can resolve, and the pixel-pitch of the sensor. If the pixel pitch of the sensor is smaller than the lines per mm that the lens can resolve, then the detail you can capture is limited by the lens. If the LPM that the lens can resolve is smaller than the pixel pitch, then it is limited by the sensor. Is this logical? How does the size of the sensor come into the picture? Is it more demanding on the lens because it requires the lens to produce a good image further from the central axis?
If you don't like how people responded to you here. There's always the ignore button. Do not drag the Singapore equation into this issue as there is no link. Try asking this in any other forum based overseas. You will get flamed. People responded civilly but you chose to interpret their replies as being elitist and pompous. We can also choose to interpret you in a different way...
Sigma is good. I can agree with that point but only over the consumer grade lenses. If Sigma is that good, why is Canon still in the lens business and not losing market share to Sigma? Sigma's lenses are reversed engineered Canon lenses. Fine, go ahead and use Sigma lenses on a 1Ds Mark III it's your loss not ours.
Sigma is good. I can agree with that point but only over the consumer grade lenses. If Sigma is that good, why is Canon still in the lens business and not losing market share to Sigma? Sigma's lenses are reversed engineered Canon lenses. Fine, go ahead and use Sigma lenses on a 1Ds Mark III it's your loss not ours.
I wun say that FF is more demanding (other than the fact lens have to performance very well at the border in order to avoid softness around the corner), i would rather say that it is the 22MP which is more demanding...
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