1D MK4 on EF 200mm F/2L IS USM Finally !!

[nat11]

I wen to night safari and it was so dark and difficult to focus while on the tram, some pict were at the show
ISO 8000 1/160

This one i was on the tram and it doesn't stop on that time. any way, this is ISO 12800 1/125

ISO 6400 but i think pic is a bit blur

This is extreme low light. ISO 25600 from 16-35 II

 

[nat11]

I just feel in the extreme low light area( like in the night safari), Mk4 did not work well on AF, the rest is great

 

[limwhow]

I just feel in the extreme low light area( like in the night safari), Mk4 did not work well on AF, the rest is great

Hey nat11. You are beginning to take us through your path of discovery of your 1DMkIV. And I salute you for that because I believe that is exactly what many of us are eagerly awaiting.
Your Night safari shots are great.
Perhaps a couple of them may do marginally better with focus more pin-point on where you intended.
Do you think it would help in acquiring faster AF if you have a Speedlite but with Flash Disabled, just to make use of it's AF beam?

 

[nat11]

Hey nat11. You are beginning to take us through your path of discovery of your 1DMkIV. And I salute you for that because I believe that is exactly what many of us are eagerly awaiting.
Your Night safari shots are great.
Perhaps a couple of them may do marginally better with focus more pin-point on where you intended.
Do you think it would help in acquiring faster AF if you have a Speedlite but with Flash Disabled, just to make use of it's AF beam?

actually during the tram riding me along the way I, seldom get on focus also...really hard!!!!:dunno: unless MF :bsmilie:...Oh! speedlite AF beam is a great idea. It might help and i hope i could turn back time and try it last night....

 

[nat11]

the quality is not so good,IMO
ISO 25600, 1/25

ISO 25600, 1/6

ISO 25600, 1/10

 

[nat11]

At ISO 12800 200mm at f2 , 1/20

16-35II ISO 25600 F2.8, 1/6

16-35 ISO 12800 F2.8 1/13

 

[Tachyon]

The question is not IQ anymore. The question is, would it be easy for other cameras to capture these images - without flash in the dark and freezing the action of the animals? I would think not (except for the Nikon D3s, that is).

So, I would rate this favorably.

 

[Pinarello]

I tested the D3S with the latest 70-200 VRII at the night safari. The issue is the same! There is no way to AF. All of my shots will taken using MF.

The D3S and 70-200 VR is from my friend who is a fan of Darkside and have been asking me to change my "C" to "N". Honestly in extremely dark condition, there is no way to auto focus!:nono: Well in military, why do they use laser beam to guide focusing lock.I don't think N nor C is anyway ahead of Military in that respect. Using Laser will result in more $ and depends in intensity of the beam, it can be hazardous to the eyes!.....There will never be a perfect solution. Not yet is there a "SAFE" solution with current available technology for "CONSUMER" use.

I'm not defending Canon...but I'm 100% sure D3S is not better in the same situation of extreme Low Light. This is base on my use with my friend D3S and 70-200VRII. I cannot commend if combine with other lens will yiel better result??

The question is not IQ anymore. The question is, would it be easy for other cameras to capture these images - without flash in the dark and freezing the action of the animals? I would think not (except for the Nikon D3s, that is).

So, I would rate this favorably.

 

[ricleo]

looking at the images from the night safari, i think some of them are a little over exposed where there seems to be spotlights. if you have dialed in slight -EV of 1/3 or 2/3, the shutter speeds may improve to get you even sharper pics.

The AF issue, hopefully you can try the external flash AF assist lamp in the future.
I wonder if Willy Foo used the AF assist lamp on his D3S when he was testing the D3S with a Nikkor 200F2 at the night safari. I must say those shots i saw on his facebook were impressive. But he posted shots of a similar nature to you, which are those from the show. So I guess the D3S couldn't handle well on the moving trams either!

you can see his shots here below. I was really impressed by the one of the jumping animal (some jungle cat)?

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/album.php?aid=185854&id=719891275

 

[lightning]

looking at the images from the night safari, i think some of them are a little over exposed where there seems to be spotlights. if you have dialed in slight -EV of 1/3 or 2/3, the shutter speeds may improve to get you even sharper pics.

The AF issue, hopefully you can try the external flash AF assist lamp in the future.
I wonder if Willy Foo used the AF assist lamp on his D3S when he was testing the D3S with a Nikkor 200F2 at the night safari. I must say those shots i saw on his facebook were impressive. But he posted shots of a similar nature to you, which are those from the show. So I guess the D3S couldn't handle well on the moving trams either!

you can see his shots here below. I was really impressed by the one of the jumping animal (some jungle cat)?

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/album.php?aid=185854&id=719891275

Actually his shots looks grainy and WB is off too. D3S high ISO performance not very impressive.

 

[eAgles]

looking at the images from the night safari, i think some of them are a little over exposed where there seems to be spotlights. if you have dialed in slight -EV of 1/3 or 2/3, the shutter speeds may improve to get you even sharper pics.

The AF issue, hopefully you can try the external flash AF assist lamp in the future.
I wonder if Willy Foo used the AF assist lamp on his D3S when he was testing the D3S with a Nikkor 200F2 at the night safari. I must say those shots i saw on his facebook were impressive. But he posted shots of a similar nature to you, which are those from the show. So I guess the D3S couldn't handle well on the moving trams either!

you can see his shots here below. I was really impressed by the one of the jumping animal (some jungle cat)?

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/album.php?aid=185854&id=719891275

IMHO, it's not really a fair comparison at that kind of size.

 

[Pinarello]

In the 1st place is the focus assist beam allow on the tram ride of night safari? When I tested the D3S with the 70-200VRII, the focus assist beam was switch to off. I was sitting on th 1st tram and was taking the 1st shot when I was told to switch off the beam.

Anyway.......not a good comparison.

A good test will be to try out at the over head bridge along an expressway at night, taking shots at different ISO at the fast moving vehicles.

Anyone with a 1DMk4 and 3Ds for a shoot out?

 

[ricleo]

what i posted was not meant to be a good/scientific comparision, is just to have a look at what cameras with ISO up to 100,240 can do. True that the Willy Foo pics have more grain, but they are also sharper as the much higher shutter speeds allowed him to freeze action, under such challenging shooting conditions in the night safari.

I myself also know how challenging it is as I have used my 5D to test its lowlight capabilities at the night safari before as well, and it was not possible to freeze any action, not to mention i do not have a F2 lens with IS haha...

 

[nat11]

follow zoo keeper

Almost cant get

It's not really freeze the action coz i only used ISO 8000 not the highest yet

 

[nat11]

 

[nat11]

 

[dolina]

I think multiply.com is compressing your photos and messing up your colors. Have you tried uploading to flickr? I wish my 1D4 would arrive already. I've been waiting since December 27 for a Philippine copy but the delays are killing me.

 

[daocon]

I agree with this man. Stop ripping on a person who buys things that you guys THINK they do not deserve just based on the number of posts that person has in the forum. That's just ignorant. Even if that person buys the equipment for display purposes, what's wrong with that? Many people have to work very hard to get the kind of joy they pursue, I see nothing wrong with that.

 

[daocon]

This thread isn't about "photography", though?

While it does have a few "not so nice" photographs as admitted by the TS/photographer, it is really a thread about camera equipment and not photography per se.

Ask yourself, what is this thread about, really?

If it was a thread about pictures taken by an expensive setup I wouldn't even think about poking fun at anything; in fact the TS has another thread with pics taken by the 200/2 that aren't all that bad and that I haven't poked fun at or thought about. But I ask again, what is the purpose of this thread if you boil it down?

If someone is showing off their recently purchased very expensive kit then they're inviting comments about their financial situation. If anything, they started the discussion. If they were showing off their pictures taken by very expensive kit, nice or otherwise, then I would agree with your comments altogether.

"Look at me guys, I've just bought this very expensive camera and lens and I was one of the first ten in the country to get the camera!"

Let me get this straight - if you have the money and want to buy your stuff you go right ahead, that's your right and your prerogative and I'm not disputing that. It doesn't matter if you couldn't take a photograph to save your life or if you were the best photographer in the world.

But if you intend to show off your new and expensive kit then I think a few comments in relation to that are not out of place.

This is the problem with photography in Singapore, as I've bleated about numerous times. More people get excited by exciting kit than they do about exciting photography.

You should be asking that question to yourself. This thread is called Equipment Discussion.

 

[daocon]

For whatever reason he/she might have to start this thread, senior members like yourself and many others should know how to refrain from bad bitting others. Being a newbie, one should exercise humility when learning from the experienced. Being a senior member, this humility should be exercise with greater virtue. While I agree that there may be some who might be over enthused when getting such setup and the approach in sharing might be sentenced wrongly, the appropriate response, no matter how new or senior one is when perceiving such message (highlighted in red above) should be objective, not subjective.

This person is sane. I agree. Don't think one has the right to humiliate others just because you are older, have more posts, shot more pictures, or whatever.