150/2 & 35-100/2


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the above post was really helpful to me.
Thanks for it!

You are most welcome. I am not very technical as a photographer, just speaking from my own personal experience with the gear that I have used, so please do check with other related web pages or visit the Olympus showroom to speak to the real pros there who should have all the technical specifications at hand, and maybe even some of the lenses for you to have a hands on test.
 

Thanks,

Even though my mind has been more or less made up... u've jus concretised my decision to buy the 50mm lens...

Waiting for payday... Early Christmas gift for myself... ;)
 

Ah yes, the famous 50/2...

Let's hope the mythical 100/2.8 would be just as good!
 

The 100/2.8 has been on the roadmap for ages.

Was originally scheduled to be released this year I think. But so far, other than Oly Indo actually marking it on their price list, there is no other news.

PMA 2007 perhaps, together with the mythical 14-35/2!
 

Actually, both lenses are good for shooting anything. Just that they have close focusing capabilities and therefore they are known as "Macro" lenses. They would be the same as any 70mm or 100mm lenses out there (in 35mm format).

The 14-54mm for example, have close focusing capabilities too (0.22m to subject, as opposed to 0.24m on the 50mm Macro, surprise!) and therefore it causes some confusion at first for me (should be called a Macro Zoom!), but the f2.0 on the 50mm and the bokeh it creates makes it a bloody amazing lens, not to mention being a prime, the sharpness is really very much unrivaled by many other lenses from the ZD series. SEE THE E-SYSTEM LENS LIST FOR MORE SPECS ON THE LENSES.

Just to de-myth what everyone always thinks... there are NO RULES to what you can shoot with what lenses. Just that it would be easier to classify the lenses into categories when putting them into catalogs, at least that is what I think.

I have done fashion work with 8mm fisheye and used the 300mm prime(have to stress that this is loaner) to shoot fashion too mainly because the surrounding was too messy and I wanted to compress the perspective. After a while of shooting, you kind of understand how every lens behave and how you can control perspective or Field of View, which makes one a better photographer (note: I am no master, just a serious amateur). That was also my biggest problem when I first switch from traditional film to 4/3 because the system totally threw me off when it comes to FOV. If you have been shooting film that long, you will understand.

Anyway, regarding focusing issues, the 35mm and 50mm has lots of ground to cover, from as close as 0.146m for the 35mm to infinity... and the "travel" for the focusing barrel has a long way to go. It was a little frustrating when the lens hunt because I did not point the lens at something contrasty to start with. This is an inherent "issue" with the Olympus AF but you will quickly learn to get use to it. So that is not really a problem at all, unless you have read about other problems that I have not come across.

I never had any problems with the 35mm or the 50mm at all. But I find myself going for the 50mm all the time because the focal length is close to my old time favourite lens, the Nikkor 105mm that was built in the 70s and honestly, I love the 50mm Macro more because it is a much sharper lens than any primes that I have used (except the 150mm prime, which is a monster in itself... that was made by aliens... truly an amazing piece of glass, rivaling the famous Tessa "Eagle's Eye" lens in my opinion).

But sharpness comes with superb details revelation and it sometimes backfire if you are shooting human subjects with bad skin. Everything is revealed and that is not very flattery to the subject that you are shooting (but of course, these days you can do post work to sort this out easily).

Take your time to study a lens well before making any impulsive purchase decision. If you can only afford to buy one Macro lens from the ZD family and not in hurry to have it, I would suggest that you save for the 50mm Macro because it is one of the most important lens to me personally. Lightweight and produces superb images. A joy to have if you love shooting details. Weatherproofing the lens means it can take a little bit more abuse and is protected against the elements. That is something "extra" that I would gladly pay for.

Hope the above information helps.

Woh... Thanks a lot microcosm! realli helps a lot. Thanks :)
 

:thumbsup: I happened to look into this thread and i have to agreed with Microcosm opinions..

Until today, i would think that choosing a lens really depends on the user's photography techniques / preferences and the perspective of the photography that you're into.
Just give a thought into shooting a scene (A person with a scenic background) , will you choose a wide angle 11-22 and standing nearer , or a prime / kit (photographer standing further away) or you would choose a telephoto (photographer standing real far shooting). All of these 3 lens will deliver same "object" size however, the deliverances will be very much different..

The worse mistake to choose a lens is to go into "pixel peeping" analysing how sharp each pixel is.. Goodness.. Oly lens are designed to deliver lightweight quality and not compromising on quality. If canon systems were to produce a 70-200mm F2.0 , i've to say it will probably cost above $3k and weights close to 2kg.

If given a choice, i would prefer 50-200mm, although yes, bokeh is not that fantastic (however bokeh is determine by object relative distances to the background ) and also on the type of background at the point of shooting. A f2.0 lens can produce ugly bokeh too at times. 50-200mm although its softer at wide, much ofthe advantage is that its not a "loud" lens... If you're into travel photography , a big bazooka like 35-100mm will attract much attention and you might not be able to pull away with interesting shots when you're shooting with a longer 50-200. Of course, if you're into fashion photography or studio photography, having that "loud" lens wouldnt matters much.
However, do note that you can buy a 50-200mm + 11-22mm with the same price as a 35-100m. So its about dollars and cents when comes to shooting too .

Till today, at times, i'll still use my sony alpha for shooting especially in low light.. If olympus were to produce OIS lens (glad that leica is doing that) , or olympus next body has OIS .. needless to say .. Olympus lens and body are the BEST i ever experienced so far... The "feel / colours / smoothness" of the picture produced is out of the world.




Actually, both lenses are good for shooting anything. Just that they have close focusing capabilities and therefore they are known as "Macro" lenses. They would be the same as any 70mm or 100mm lenses out there (in 35mm format).

The 14-54mm for example, have close focusing capabilities too (0.22m to subject, as opposed to 0.24m on the 50mm Macro, surprise!) and therefore it causes some confusion at first for me (should be called a Macro Zoom!), but the f2.0 on the 50mm and the bokeh it creates makes it a bloody amazing lens, not to mention being a prime, the sharpness is really very much unrivaled by many other lenses from the ZD series. SEE THE E-SYSTEM LENS LIST FOR MORE SPECS ON THE LENSES.

Just to de-myth what everyone always thinks... there are NO RULES to what you can shoot with what lenses. Just that it would be easier to classify the lenses into categories when putting them into catalogs, at least that is what I think.

I have done fashion work with 8mm fisheye and used the 300mm prime(have to stress that this is loaner) to shoot fashion too mainly because the surrounding was too messy and I wanted to compress the perspective. After a while of shooting, you kind of understand how every lens behave and how you can control perspective or Field of View, which makes one a better photographer (note: I am no master, just a serious amateur). That was also my biggest problem when I first switch from traditional film to 4/3 because the system totally threw me off when it comes to FOV. If you have been shooting film that long, you will understand.

Anyway, regarding focusing issues, the 35mm and 50mm has lots of ground to cover, from as close as 0.146m for the 35mm to infinity... and the "travel" for the focusing barrel has a long way to go. It was a little frustrating when the lens hunt because I did not point the lens at something contrasty to start with. This is an inherent "issue" with the Olympus AF but you will quickly learn to get use to it. So that is not really a problem at all, unless you have read about other problems that I have not come across.

I never had any problems with the 35mm or the 50mm at all. But I find myself going for the 50mm all the time because the focal length is close to my old time favourite lens, the Nikkor 105mm that was built in the 70s and honestly, I love the 50mm Macro more because it is a much sharper lens than any primes that I have used (except the 150mm prime, which is a monster in itself... that was made by aliens... truly an amazing piece of glass, rivaling the famous Tessa "Eagle's Eye" lens in my opinion).

But sharpness comes with superb details revelation and it sometimes backfire if you are shooting human subjects with bad skin. Everything is revealed and that is not very flattery to the subject that you are shooting (but of course, these days you can do post work to sort this out easily).

Take your time to study a lens well before making any impulsive purchase decision. If you can only afford to buy one Macro lens from the ZD family and not in hurry to have it, I would suggest that you save for the 50mm Macro because it is one of the most important lens to me personally. Lightweight and produces superb images. A joy to have if you love shooting details. Weatherproofing the lens means it can take a little bit more abuse and is protected against the elements. That is something "extra" that I would gladly pay for.

Hope the above information helps.
 

Till today, at times, i'll still use my sony alpha for shooting especially in low light.. If olympus were to produce OIS lens (glad that leica is doing that) , or olympus next body has OIS .. needless to say .. Olympus lens and body are the BEST i ever experienced so far... The "feel / colours / smoothness" of the picture produced is out of the world.

I was wondering if you have ever do a side by side comparison for(1) noise (2) picture quality? Just curious.
 

Yes in fact i did all sorts of tests with Sony A100 versus Olympus E-300 (latest firmware updated). Sony white-balance accuracy is close to 90%, olympus is probably 60-70.. Skin tones for an average asian chinese fair girl (Sony daylight .. light yellowish with red / pink hues) (olympus is cream with pinkish tones) > Even both are white balance corrected, the skin tones are still different ..

Olympus is more smoothing with nicer skin tones.. Olympus sky / sea blue is quite unique.. Most japanese called it the "Olympus Blue". However my e-300 Greens are really too saturated in most cases.. Sony strength lies in very balance colours (red green blue), not overly saturated. Olympus Jpeg always seems a bit crisper ( i believe its the sharpening / processing algorithm). Sony picture quality is a bit more gentle as similar to the previous Minolta 5D DSLR that i've owned before. The details holds better much better comparing to E-300 (maybe its 10 megpix to 8 megpix Or could be the lens differences).

Olympus noise are gradual and the can emulate high ISO film very well. Both noise level are quite similar up to ISO 400. Sony seems to have a bit of additional colour noise at similar ISO level.

If you were to ask me to compare ..In good daylight > Olympus produce excellent colours.. It projects a feel and nicely saturated , bright , appearing sharp photos .. In low light > Sony wins hand-down in terms of colours accuracy, control of tonal range, white balance control in various difficult lighting conditions. Also Sony anti-shake on body helps tremendously in allowing handheld low light photography without flash.

I was wondering if you have ever do a side by side comparison for(1) noise (2) picture quality? Just curious.
 

Thanks for sharing this. Indeed it is good to know and be able to understand the strengths and weaknesses of all the camera systems out there from a user's perspective.
 

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