WOuld you bring a 28-135mmIS or a 17-40L for a study trip?


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bring the kit lens for wide group shots and your 28-135 for that additional reach and crop when you need it. there's no need to keep buying, even for a wide angle L lens when you can just take a few steps backwards to put everyone in you frame.
 

niki said:
Hi guys,

I will be bringing some students over to sabah. rite now, i'm caught in a dilemma. *see thread title* i have the 28-135 now, but do not own the 17-40L. i can sell off the 28-135 to subsidise my 17-40. which one do u think i shld be bringing on top of my 70-200, flash, 50mm and macro lens?

Frankly, i do not feel 'safe' shooting without IS. However i think the 17-40 can deliver a punch in landscape pics, which i can forsee alot in sabah. juz that its f4.. indoor may have constraints..

options available:
1) keep 28-135, buy a 17-40
2) sell 28-135, buy 17-40


would value your thoughts on this issue, coz i find the 28-135IS very 'reassuring'. but no point i have both rite? :dunno: thanks!
Keep ur lens and bring along ur kit lens.

Why worry about no IS at 18mm where u can shoot effectively at low shutter speeds like 1/15 without worries? :dunno:

Actually since u're bringing ur flash along, I see no problems shooting indoors even if u're shooting at f/5.6 (I really dun understand when ppl say, "Buy 17-40L, worry abt f/4 not enuff."). DigicII on the 350D keeps noise at ISO800 and ISO1600 to minimum, why worry? U are not going to view all ur photos at 100% right?

And not forgetting ur budget constraint, why fear not capturing good landscapes with the kit lens? There's always photoshop to up the contrast (or in-camera processing). There's always tripods to keep things steady.
 

niki said:
erm, i dun really get the meaning of this? ur 'human shots' refer to the group shots?
Yes i am refering to group shot, human interest subjects..
 

mpenza said:
erm... if not full frame, 28-135 will be even less wide right? ;p

Heh...forgive me for my mistake as I was rushing home then; maybe age is catching up with me as nowadays my fingers don't seem cooperate with my mind when I type or writes :bsmilie:
 

hhmm.. okie..thanks for ur posts.. jsbn.. very insightful .. thanks.;)
 

That's the problem with digital bodies nowadays, your reliance on lens increases and that's where Canon get their advantage from.

Back in the early 90s where Nikon, Canon and Minolta and fighting it out where Nikon already gets into most of the photographer dry cabi, Canon caught up with their better technology glasses aimed with a good timing towards the increased opportunity for faster lens.

Nowadays, with the crop factor thing keep bugging many Canon lenses users, you will be disturbed that many "used to be" excellent lenses such as the 70-200, 28-70, 17-40 becomes awkwardly unusable with the funny range. Usually many prosumer users that have L lenses in the past had to stick with the less attractive digital lenses because Canon can't produce them fast and at professional quality. Do bear in mind that utimately, if you get the digital lenses, in no time, newer and full frame DSLR will flood the market and eventually makes them less attractive to be used. Unlike many of the lenses that I've got 10-20 years ago, they still work a charm on the latest DSLR.

Coming back to your lens question, because of the focal length, weight, crop factor blar blar blar, I think the best solution would be of course to weight your concerns first. Since you have the 28-135, I believe its good enough, for a full frame body of course.

If you are concern with landscape angles, then of course you need 17-40. With a digital output, you can in fact crop in to get details, but that is of course at the expense of manipulating original framing which most digital users are not too concern with. If you are good at your post photography developing, and after cropping in, the output is still acceptable with the resolution your camera bady produced, then getting a 17-40 is a better choice.

I've both lenses and have experience in carrying only one of them out to shoot. I've use the 28-135 on a 11 day trip to Beijing and captured almost 100% landscape photos. I've also used only a 17-40 locally for outing shoots and nothing else. I get satisfactory shots on both occasions.

I believe it depends on the way you frame your subjects and how you want to present the captured photo, either lens is in fact, a good choice because whatever you planned on taking may eventually comes out to not the case. My recent trip to Jiu Zhai Gou in Chengdu, China eventually turns out that I use my 300mm more to capture wildlife and details as opposed to the belief that wide angle will be used most of the time.
 

Maltese said:
Nowadays, with the crop factor thing keep bugging many Canon lenses users, you will be disturbed that many "used to be" excellent lenses such as the 70-200, 28-70, 17-40 becomes awkwardly unusable with the funny range. Usually many prosumer users that have L lenses in the past had to stick with the less attractive digital lenses because Canon can't produce them fast and at professional quality. Do bear in mind that utimately, if you get the digital lenses, in no time, newer and full frame DSLR will flood the market and eventually makes them less attractive to be used. Unlike many of the lenses that I've got 10-20 years ago, they still work a charm on the latest DSLR.

Situation is worse with Nikon and Minolta. Canon at least offers the (more expensive) option of full frame DSLRs now to reuse the "older" lenses at their "original" range.
 

Since you've considered buying a 17-40L in addition to your 28-135, why not get an EF-S 10-22 since you're using a 350D. Take advantage of the ability to use EF-S lenses. It's hot property on BnS now too, shouldn't be hard to resell if you don't like it. While I haven't tried it because I don't have a 1.6X body, I've heard so much and read so much about it that I'm actually considering getting a 1.6X body so I can permanently plug it on and use it for my wides! The price of the 10-22 is about the same as the price of the 17-40 and you get a 16mm FOV instead of a paltry 28mm by comparison.

Don't feel safe without IS? Get a tripod.
 

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