Western Union scams!! Be careful!

[hongsien]

Thought this would be an interesting read for those doing internet buys especially through eBay:

http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jsp?forum=31&thread=215618&modifed=20030621212344

Western Union was mainly set up for money transfers between people that know each other.

Hong Sien

 

[hongsien]

can't edit my post for an addition:

Please also bever accept paymentds through credit cards from Indonesia and some former eastern bloc countries from people who wants todeal OUTSIDE of eBay or other sites. They very likely use stolen CC's, only accept Western Union transfers or wire transfers (you will never hear from them again!), ask for the CC number and call VISA or Master card for the owner's name and address, if this doesn't match with the emails you are getting don't deal!

Hong Sien

 

[extreme2]

Have encoutered such cases before at ebay involving some joker from Indonesia using a fake Credit Card trying to buy my camera. But some how the card was not accepted by Paypal.

Just becareful when dealing thru Internet transactions. :light:

 

[hongsien]

Paypal doesn't accept CC's from Indonesia and some other countries for a reason......there are good people out there in Indonesia off course, they would likely have no qualms in paying through secure methods (TT (wire)/western union)

Hong Sien

 

[Klause]

Not insulting the indonesia or anything.

But in the handphone section of ebay. The number of indonesian scammer is more than all the scammers in other parts of the world combined.

I've put up about 20 actions before in there and 90% of the time, some indonesia user with 0 feedback and registered on the day I list my auction will end up bidding to the price that I myself won't even dare to sell (20%-50% over-valued).

So just bewards They are sometimes pretty good in scamming, they will use an american credit card but ask you to ship to indonesia. You might end up losing both money and item.

However, there's still some real indonesia ebayers. Just check their feedback and the history of their account. In ebay, 2-3 scam will get your account revoked.

 

[hongsien]

Another thing you could check is if people contact you to close the deal outside of eBay: check their eBay ID history, if it has not been active for the past few months, it is likely a hijacked ID. Lastly, report to eBay about that ID! Most of the scamming involves handphones, laptops and other electronics ranging in value of between USD 400-2000. They always ask if they can pay using their CC (NOT through Paypal) and ask you to send the item as fast as possible through a Courier service (FedEx, DHL). Beware!

Hong Sien

 

[klsss]

Originally posted by hongsien
Thought this would be an interesting read for those doing internet buys especially through eBay:

http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jsp?forum=31&thread=215618&modifed=20030621212344

Western Union was mainly set up for money transfers between people that know each other.

Hong Sien

i really doubt his story , look at the date 2month later than he send payment by WU ? anyway he did this to himself , greedy

WU is not advice for payment with huge amount n dont buy outside ebay

 

[myloplex]

http://www.hardwarezone.com/classified/viewad.hwz?aid=245398&category=18&

This is a scam.
They guy insist I transfer money to him before anything else.
He wouldn't even let me talk to me to deal when I offered.

These are his details.
Beware:

L. GUIDRY
CALARASU FLORIAN VIOREL
CALARASU FLORIAN VIOREL
VIA MUNZANO
GENOVA,
16100

ITALY

 

[hongsien]

Originally posted by klsss
i really doubt his story , look at the date 2month later than he send payment by WU ? anyway he did this to himself , greedy

WU is not advice for payment with huge amount n dont buy outside ebay

Excerpt from the eBay posting:
"It all started on 6/02/2003 when I placed a bid on E-Bay for a laptop. I received an email from an eBay member on 06/03/2003......."

This is the american way of writing the dates: month first followed by the day, so there were only days in between these dates not months as you seem to understand it.

It is the american 'logic' to put month before the day.....

Hong Sien

 

[Winston]

Originally posted by hongsien
can't edit my post for an addition:

Please also bever accept paymentds through credit cards from Indonesia and some former eastern bloc countries from people who wants todeal OUTSIDE of eBay or other sites. They very likely use stolen CC's, only accept Western Union transfers or wire transfers (you will never hear from them again!), ask for the CC number and call VISA or Master card for the owner's name and address, if this doesn't match with the emails you are getting don't deal!

Hong Sien

Not so sure, if VISA or Mastercard will release details of owner's name and Address to anyone who calls.

That will be a breech of privacy.

If they release mine, I think I might cancel the card or sue them.

 

[hongsien]

Originally posted by Winston
Not so sure, if VISA or Mastercard will release details of owner's name and Address to anyone who calls.

That will be a breech of privacy.

If they release mine, I think I might cancel the card or sue them.

This is what one person did (I forgot if he was in the states or in Europe), and the VISA company gave him a different address, so he didn't go through witht he deal and could even inform the real owner of the card that his card was hijacked.

HS