What have become of the infamous Bobman at ClubSnap? A demon that finally unleashed in its fury? I prefer the show, Fist of Fury by Bruce Lee as the good trampled the evil.
Bobman, like I said, you have a bad habit of not reading correctly and this was evident in several spikes you had with former members you engaged in a ring fight. You always lost anyway as you love to detract the audience with illusive and falsified information. Again, I beseech you, while you may still hold a fake pretense, please consider to read my earlier posting with a truthful heart!
In your posting, you admitted you owed me $400. You were the one who publicly committed to pay me $50 every month. I did not force you into committing to that. However, I did not receive a single cent from you for over a month. I thought that was enough grace period for a start but you faked it again. In this case, you had breached a verbal agreement you so put forth willingly. You have collected several thousands from over 20 people plus the $400 cash from me. You don't even have $50 to pay me? Remember the numeric illustration?
25x $400 = $10,000 cash
What on earth happened to most if not all of the money? You claimed you paid for airfare and arranged for an instructor to come? Come on, don't fool us further please. If you had done that, you would be excited to inform all of us that the course was finally ready at least one week before hand. But you kept to yourself until I exposed you and you said the course would be starting in a few days' time. But it didnt happen again to the dismay of participants who paid you. Your facts do not click at all. You claimed - but could not prove - you bought airfare and you failed to confirm with participants; you had no information about the workshop, there was no venue, you had probably no clue what you were doing perhaps. Or were these all lies again. Nothing new.
Just to keep the record straight, I called and sms you (and I can show the authorities and Moderators the record in my pda). You avoided my contact. Also, it remains illogical why I would not want to inform you my bank account information since I wanted my $400 back. It would be real silly (for me) since you willingly requested for my bank account info, I wanted my money, and surely it would be a no brainer decison to provide you the info. I knew you would start to lie again (as in this thread) and so I indicated the time and date of my message and also my account information for you to read here in clubsnap. Yes, I need to resort to come to the Internet to recover lost money, but those were my hard earned cash, Bob. Have you ever had a hard day's work and collected cash for your toil? Besides, you lurk in the shadows of ClubSnap and this is the only place I can make you communicate with you. I do not wish to visit you where you live, as you appear to me unreliable to say the least.
Also, I do not have to swear to honor what I said. I will only do so during a court hearing. In fact, many people here who PM me indicated names about you like "conman, con artist, fraud, cheat, nothing new about Bob, Bob has a long history of doing such (bad) things, Bob has integrity problems, a real scam." I do feel encouraged by people here who gave me a pat on my shoulder. I felt the same for them, too, as you got their money as well with the same trick.
Also, you have not answered why you deleted thread details about people who signed up and paid for Tobias Fischer course. That thread contained contractual information about who paid and who had not. Again, you tampered with information and your so called (only) term or condition about your supposed right to change dates/instructor/model does not hold here anymore. You have No ground Not to pay us as you deleted your one and only T&C. You want to talk about contractual law? You have to learn it first. I was fortunate to have taken courses on Criminology, Civil Law, Economic Law and Business Law when I was abroad. The senior partners behind my business are well trained in law, too.
You owed and still owe many people money here in CS and this is still a fact. Remember you even tried asking me for another S$200.00 after the $400.00 cash for some personal needs? I said a firm "No" to you and you began to turn hostile since you could not milk any more money from me. I brought you out for a simple meal twice; have I not been kind to you? What further right(s) do you have to hang on to my hard earned cash?
I did not lock the earlier thread to trick you. I locked the thread to preserve the information for people to pursue the matter with the authorities. I hope these can be useful during a court hearing. I did not trick you into typing anything. You typed all the information (whether falsified or true) at your own free will. You made your promise to me at your own free will. These would be useful for a court hearing. If you felt you had been fooled then you are indeed one, as you seem to take interest in manipulating people's facts.
Also, remember the studio lights that you got someone into selling you? Instead of paying, you condemn the seller and the quality of equipment. And how much did you pay that poor chap eventually? And the darkroom set up money? These were all in your history and were clear indicators you milk money out of people in CS big time. Go look into a mirror in case you have short-lived memory that it was you who brought yourself into this plight.
As an upright person, I hold true in what I wrote and many members here who wrote to me in support could attest to this as that they got "con by Bobman" as well into believing there was a workshop for "some photographers" in one session with one instructor and an unknown studio. I only learned that so many got fooled when you declared you collected cash deposit from over 20 people into believing this workshop does exist. No one has any clue who the next change of instructor(s) could be since you deliberately removed all information in those threads and also in the threads following from the original, and then again and again before the new thread finally lost its actual information and essence. And to those who wrote to me, they gave up in the hope of believing a workshop, which they also paid for. This can be considered as Internet fraud!
Remember, you have no right to keep or to spend our money away and then declare you have not enough to pay us. These were our hard earned cash.
Bob, admit it, you have made enough from this community. It is time for you to turn over a new leaf. Remember to pay us as agreed as soon as possible.
Dear Wolfgang, Moderators,
Please bear with me in my attempt to isolate a possible fraud case here openly for the benefit of new members and members who got into he same situation as I did. I was a newbie and started becoming active in CS late last year. This is my first experience with Internet fraud and I am hoping to recover my money back quickly. I speak, too, on behalf of several members who are in the same shoes as I am involving the same money related issue with an organiser.
As to your suggestion whether we could discuss this in private, I am afraid Bob is unable to do so as he avoided all my calls and messages like a coward for the past months. This is where I met Bob and got cheated by him and this is the only place I could find him. I felt it was only fair that I exposed him here for the benefit of all in this closely knitted forum.
I am sure Bob had somewhat been an asset to the community here previously, with good quality model shoots, and he probably had his good supporters and was well accepted by certain Moderators. But, Mods, remember that this was done at the expense of sacrificing people who fell prey to him - before and in the future.
And, if I do lose my privilege to post here anymore in this forum, I will be appalled since I am trying to lift a community spirit here with upright business integrity. I am a professional in my own field and I do not need to live on photography. Somehow, I do spare a thought for those who suffered from money related problem with Bobman.
People who wrote to me in private messaging (PM) ranged from students to professionals. It is a sad that this happened, but I am hoping to bring in a new light of hope to those people whom Bob owes. Many members empathized (as they fell into the same situation) with me and encouraged me whenever Bob started his groundless attacks at me.
I am thankful I made great friends who shared my vision and my purpose in allowing upright justice to reign. If we could eradicate the filth, it certainly would bring up the hygiene level in this lovely community.
The above are just my humble thoughts for your kind considerations.
Cheers & Pop Corns to All who read up to this line!
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