Noise performance: D750 VS D810

[erictan8888]

Currently using D810 liao...
But not happy with its low light capability... Especially at ISO2000 and above...

Looking at one more to complement low light usage...

 

[N-user]

Currently using D810 liao... But not happy with its low light capability... Especially at ISO2000 and above... Looking at one more to complement low light usage...

Oic.... If video is not deal breaker.... Then to me Df should be better....

For me if I am getting a Dslr... Will go for D750... I no need super high ISO and no need super high mp.... Do d750 to me is the best compromise... But alas.... Now boh $$$....sigh

 

[Far far away]

Nice discussion going on here. Thanks for the contribution from all.

Honestly don't understand Machbot's tirade here against Bro daredevil123. Uncalled for and not needed.

Do keep this thread going for the benefits of newbies like me.

 

[erictan8888]

heard from other forums that there are rumors that Nikon might be releasing an update to the Nikon DF...
if this is true, will wait for the new model...
but I think its rumors only...

 

[MarkersNg]

Nice discussion going on here. Thanks for the contribution from all.

Honestly don't understand Machbot's tirade here against Bro daredevil123. Uncalled for and not needed.

Do keep this thread going for the benefits of newbies like me.

I also don't really get what's his point, I mean, Manual is the way to go, TTL is just an added feature.

 

[Jeremy1]

Currently using D810 liao...
But not happy with its low light capability... Especially at ISO2000 and above...

Looking at one more to complement low light usage...

ISO2000 cannot make it ?

:think:

 

[Jeremy1]

just checked.... focus down to -2ev ...
only D750 can focus down to -3ev

Your D4 power liao... for you, D5 then upgrade lah...

Wait for D5s this time, won't be so stupid to jump to D4 which is more expensive than D4s and lower iso performance and worst still is the release gap for D4s is so close to D4...................

 

[erictan8888]

for shooting in dark places like forest birds, the noise will just come in all over the places...
usually limit myself to iso1600...

for indoors, normal lit rooms, iso2000 is no issue...

ISO2000 cannot make it ?

:think:

 

[Nikonzen]

What about buffer comparisons if you are shooting birds under the dark forest canopy? I say Df here with 47 RAW snaps before she slows down...definitely a plus to a birder I would think. Only drawback (if it is so) is AF system which is not going to compete with your 810.

Nikon crippled the 750 for you birders imo and I think I would devote the 810 to landscape at which it excels...

The Df is the machine plus you can use all of those great F mount lenses back to the beginning.

Plus it is probably easier to manage when out walking and hunting for snaps.

 

[erictan8888]

Really wonder if the iso3200 to iso12800, how the d750 compares to the Df...
Any comments?

 

[daredevil123]

I also don't really get what's his point, I mean, Manual is the way to go, TTL is just an added feature.

For your benefit
Camera in manual when using TTL flash. That was the point.
http://rolandlim.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/a-simple-guide-to-ttl-flash-photography/

Back to original topic. Please do not OT.

 

[Zenten]

....cook the Raw files, then everything comes out smooth and free from noise ............

 

[daredevil123]

Really wonder if the iso3200 to iso12800, how the d750 compares to the Df...
Any comments?

Bro, Df same sensor as D4 with expeed 4... Performance is quite similar to D4s. But Df's AF is not the best for birding.

 

[daredevil123]

ISO2000 cannot make it ?

:think:

For birding ISO is very sensitive, especially when you have to crop.

 

[Nikonzen]

....cook the Raw files, then everything comes out smooth and free from noise ............

Likely not really necessary with any of these high end cameras...but if you want the maximum possible noise control then you must go to the D4 sensor and processor.

So is this even a relevant question as what was the OP? I mean geez louize we are talking 750's and 810's here...pro level with incredible ISO performance by any measure really. State of the art boys. How good is good enough? Can't we just go catch the birds and put them in a cage?

 

[unchecked]

Originally I'm also not happy with the ISO performance, but still, it depends if you want to pixel peep or not.

ISO5000


ISO6400

 

[erictan8888]

The bright flood lights really does help a lot and in such conditions, iso3200 to iso6400 are really very much usable.
But in birding, in shaded places, the same ISO will be totally different. Noise will be very much obvious.
But birds in flight, will bright blue sky, even if pump ISO also won't see much noise.

That's why high ISO output really depends on the ambience light conditions in which picture is taken...
So, am considering another high ISO capable camera to use with d810...
Understand current d4s is the best, but with life cycle and replacement period factored in, not so keen to spend this amount on the d4s...
So looking for the next best... Ha ha...

 

[saberlancer]

yes, the shots are not taken in a controlled setting...
but after looking through the shots for 2 days, I have come to the unscientific conclusion that:

1. D750 definitely has better high iso than D810 (maybe by about one stop there about only, I doubt it is more than one stop)
very visible from iso3200 onwards...
2. D750 is no match for Nikon DF, despite what some online reviews have mentioned, I personally feel that DF is definitely better than D750,
and by quite a lot, like close to one stop difference. Moreover, the rendering and colours of the DF are more pleasing to my eyes...
For instance, at iso5000, DF handles it so well that is hardly a trace of any noise in its image... the same can't be said for the D750, though it still is able to handle noise at this level well.
For iso3200. D750 has no problem with noise at all...

now the dilemma: to get the DF?
no video (not a deal breaker here) and rumors of a newer version...
the one thing that troubles me most is the focusing, 39pts and reports on some websites and forum that says it has trouble focusing in low light

to get the D750 ? not as good at iso5000 and above...

hmm... back to drawing board again... ha ha

Simple actually..if it doesnt focus well enough for ur use, no amount of iso superiority will matter..lol

 

[Zenten]

The bright flood lights really does help a lot and in such conditions, iso3200 to iso6400 are really very much usable.
But in birding, in shaded places, the same ISO will be totally different. Noise will be very much obvious.
But birds in flight, will bright blue sky, even if pump ISO also won't see much noise.

That's why high ISO output really depends on the ambience light conditions in which picture is taken...
So, am considering another high ISO capable camera to use with d810...
Understand current d4s is the best, but with life cycle and replacement period factored in, not so keen to spend this amount on the d4s...
So looking for the next best... Ha ha...

High ISO performance is an apparition and you can choose to believe what the manufacturers tell you ....... for me I stopped at the D800E.