New photographer wanting to learn on the job..models wanted.

[night86mare]

plus one before lock.

guys, just report this troll.

there are loads of mr machos out there who think that they very arty farty, met loads of them, whether perverted or not, i don't know, the shots are horrible anyways.

 

[night86mare]

And having a post count of ONE, is really "reassuring too..." LOL.

very, very reassuring.

if i am a female model, the first thing i would love to do is to fly to bintan and then get my food, drinks, and hotel paid for, for a shot, by a clubsnap member with one post count. :sweatsm::sweatsm:

 

[Tas101]

allenleonhart what is your problem? You have written 9? posts and attacked me in almost every one of them. Clearly you have a problem with me? IF you do not like my thread or my way of shooting then why bother to reply and ATTACK people? In a span of 2.5 hours you have done nothing but blatantly attack my thread and my personal way of doing a photo shoot.

This kind of personal vendetta should clearly be nvestigated by the mods and a warning given to NOT attack people.

AND I have no reason to show YOU my previous attempts at photography. YOU are not going to be my model and I am not asking YOU for any critique of my photos. So why should I show you what is deemed confidential between myself and my model? So you can drool over the girls? Forget it. My shoots are between me and my models and if they agree I can show some shots to any future models of mine. I have absolutely NO reason to show the likes of YOU. Especially someone who goes around attacking others on a forum.

 

[night86mare]

I am not here to show off, I am here to learn and ENJOY my hobby of photography. IF someone is interested in talking to my previous models I can readily give them the contact information. But I am not going to go just handing out personal or confidential information to people I do not know. I am not bothering to hide anything from potential models. What I do hide from is all the perverts out there who simply want to skim forums looking at girls pics and there are reasons some of the girls I shoot may not want their pics displayed for any perverts which may even be on this thread or forum.

wait, sorry, so what you shoot the pictures for?

to keep on computer for lonely nights? me, her and that nice big box of tissues???

i don't understand. :bsmilie::bsmilie:

 

[Tas101]

allenleonhart in a 2.5 hour span you have attacked me a minimum of 9 times. What is your problem and why you stalking my thread?

 

[night86mare]

Look..if you guys are jealous of other peoples way of shooting or ideas then that is your personal problem but for you to ATTACK someones way of dong a photo shoot is just wrong morally and ethically.I find it completely tasteless and disgusting that a person can not be HONEST about what he likes to do in a shoot without being attacked.

i can't really see any ounce of honesty and open-mindedness if you pay people for shots, and then keep them on your computer for personal usage. :thumbsup::bsmilie:

 

[hanqiang1011]

I think best is TS start showing us how good your previous shots are... FIRST...

For a ?new photographer, the first thing to learn is humble.

 

[Tas101]

usually we are refrain from posting comments on this forum, but this request is really insulting our members intelligence.

I urge our mods please look into this thread.

As this IS a moderated thread and it has been approved by the mods previously I believe there is nothing wrong with my posting.

I have not attacked anyone such as others have attacked me.

Nor have I insulted anyone.

I have stated what I feel and believe about photo shoots and what I am looking for in a model.

You all are the models having disgusting thoughts.

Cant a person be HONEST on here without being blatantly attacked?

 

[Tas101]

The reason I do not show people on a open forum as others cant of course steal the photos and I have confidentiality betwen myself and the girls I have shot. Perhaps some here do not have the same confidential beliefs that I have but I can not help the way others operate.

 

[night86mare]

Cant a person be HONEST on here without being blatantly attacked?

i ask you, if you are say, a father.

your daughter is a model, she comes home happily and say, wa, this uncle bring me shopping many days already, he tell me what to wear, he say i have to be open-minded.

next week we going bintan to shoot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for 2 nights, he pay for lodging, drinks, food, everything!!!!!

i think my first question will be - "so you all staying in same room?"

this is not a question of being open-minded or not, it's COMMON SENSE.

 

[Tas101]

Are you the same allenleonhart person? You blatantly attack me as well in the same manner.

 

[Tas101]

i ask you, if you are say, a father.

your daughter is a model, she comes home happily and say, wa, this uncle bring me shopping many days already, he tell me what to wear, he say i have to be open-minded.

next week we going bintan to shoot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for 2 nights, he pay for lodging, drinks, food, everything!!!!!

i think my first question will be - "so you all staying in same room?"

this is not a question of being open-minded or not, it's COMMON SENSE.

Did you read my original post? Did I say I would tell the model what to wear or did I say I wanted a models input?

BTW just for your info..I HAVE done it before. Taking a girl shopping and buying the clothing for the shoot. Where is that an issue? Do you expect the models to provide clothing????? If you go to a location shoot do you expect the MODEL to PAY???

 

[night86mare]

Are you the same allenleonhart person? You blatantly attack me as well in the same manner.

:bsmilie:

i don't know, i think i'm being quite reasonable and honest as to my thoughts about your thread now.

don't you embrace honesty?

why are you attacking me for being honest? OH NO!!!! YOU HATE ME. WHY????

 

[night86mare]

Did you read my original post? Did I say I would tell the model what to wear or did I say I wanted a models input?

BTW just for your info..I HAVE done it before. Taking a girl shopping and buying the clothing for the shoot. Where is that an issue? Do you expect the models to provide clothing????? If you go to a location shoot do you expect the MODEL to PAY???

i think if you can provide examples of your photography it is fine.

if you are not aware of the circumstances regarding a PAID SHOT, the norm is that you can place it up without the model's permission. it's as simple as that.

why need to show models only? it's not as if anyone is going to attack you for those shots.

i really can't think of a reason why you would choose not to put up the examples, other than you seem to have something to hide. if you don't, i urge you to just put it up, it will make things clearer.

 

[hanqiang1011]

The reason I do not show people on a open forum as others cant of course steal the photos and I have confidentiality betwen myself and the girls I have shot. Perhaps some here do not have the same confidential beliefs that I have but I can not help the way others operate.

There is a little trick called ''watermarking'' your photographs. You can reduce your size of output to just 100dpi in medium jpeg without compromising quality.

And also there is another thing called "Model Release" in this industry where your model's photographs must be agreed by models to show to others. If they dont agree you to show their photos, and you showed it anyway, that is ethically incorrect as you broke promise to your models.

 

[Tas101]

i ask you, if you are say, a father.

your daughter is a model, she comes home happily and say, wa, this uncle bring me shopping many days already, he tell me what to wear, he say i have to be open-minded.

next week we going bintan to shoot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for 2 nights, he pay for lodging, drinks, food, everything!!!!!

i think my first question will be - "so you all staying in same room?"

this is not a question of being open-minded or not, it's COMMON SENSE.

So your saying I have no common sense? Wow so nice and intelligent of you.

Anyway I am done with the petty arguments.

If yourself and allenleonhart or one and the same person want to go around attacking others and the mods allow it then so be it. I can not be bothered with such people.

The mods can delete my thread if they wish or close my account. And the rest of you arrogant snobs can go on pretending your so smart. This is why I never bothered to reply or post before. ll I ever seen was personal attacks and vendettas. Not true photographic spirit.

Have a nice day.

 

[daredevil123]

TS, there have been quite a number of cases of predators in this forum in the past. They pretty much solicited their preys in the same manner you just did.

We have no intention of "attacking" you. But just trying to warn readers of your post to think twice. I don't see a problem in that?

 

[night86mare]

TS, there have been quite a number of cases of predators in this forum in the past. They pretty much solicited their preys in the same manner you just did.

:thumbsup:

yes, with all that clothes buying outing stuff being a test of the waters as to how "open-minded" people actually are.

then the trip itself will be the kill.

anyways, this might put it in perspective:

http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/Singapore/Story/A1Story20100204-196607.html

whether or not you are genuine is one thing, but there is nothing wrong with urging others to be more careful.

 

[daredevil123]

So your saying I have no common sense? Wow so nice and intelligent of you.

Anyway I am done with the petty arguments.

If yourself and allenleonhart or one and the same person want to go around attacking others and the mods allow it then so be it. I can not be bothered with such people.

The mods can delete my thread if they wish or close my account. And the rest of you arrogant snobs can go on pretending your so smart. This is why I never bothered to reply or post before. ll I ever seen was personal attacks and vendettas. Not true photographic spirit.

Have a nice day.

night86mare and allenleonhart are both respected members in this forum, and they have the posts, contributions, participation to show for. You on the other hand has post count zero, prior to starting this thread. Who has a vendetta against you? For goodness sake, they don't even know who you are. And the 2 dudes you just mentioned, a lot of people know them by name. Talk about integrity... geeezz.

 

[Clown]

TS, your postings does not gel with your subject title.

Please be more objective in your service requests.

If you want models for overseas shoot with everything paid for, just say so. There's no need for extra commentaries about your vision and life policy and stuff.

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