My short fling with a digital RF...


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chiif

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As some of you might have known... I just sold a R-D1...

It's like a short romance, but the feeling still lingers... I am sure some of you have experienced teenage or adult romance where you feel that this person is not the person that you're going to live with forever, but on the other hand, you had the most enjoyable time with her....

Well, it's just like that feeling. Hope the new owner will "make use" of her(the R-D1) fully and exploit her to the fullest potential.

When I first saw the post on B&S about 2 weeks ago, I fell in love with the camera even before seeing her. It's just like falling in love through the photo. The seller can verify that I didn't even check the camera during the transaction. When I took over possession of her, I "undressed her" and spent 15min fiddling her in my car. The R-D1 is a camera that was built with a RF photographer in mind. It doesn't feel like a digital camera at all. From the shutter to the analog dials, it feels very much like a film camera. It took me less than 10min to figure out all the functions. That's how intuitive the camera was.

The sound of the shutter just feel right. I won't commend and compare with the M8, but personally, among ALL the digital cameras, I prefer the R-D1 shutter best. It's just so mechanical. It gives me a sense of ....... (don't know how to explain the feeling) when I press the shutter. And I can be sure of the moment that I capture is the moment that I want. No lag at all. Comparing with the other digital RF, I feel the R-D1 feels more instantaneous. *Please do not flame me... it's just my personal opinion! Anyone is entitled to disagree*

In terms of ergonomics, I would give the R-D1 a 10/10. It's just feel so much like a photographer's tool.... everything is so mechanical and intuitive... just reminded me of my Honda SiR that I sold 5 years ago....

Then the question... since I loved it so much, why did I part with it? Well, after shooting a couple of frames, I realised something.... I still prefer film. Though the digital gave me instant gratification, I somehow did not feel for the photographs that I took anymore. I didn't feel as much as how I used to feel towards my subject when I pressed the shutter. All I cared for when I look through the viewfinder was.... just press the trigger and hope one of the frames will turn out nice. If it is not nice, **** the shutter and fire another shot again. Personally I don't like that feeling at all. I want my pictures to have live and soul and tell a story to the audience who are looking at it. Not technically perfect pictures, but pictures that tell a story. With the digital RF, I just don't feel the urge to do it anymore.

A short discussion with one of my customers, who is a very established and successful wedding photographer, who happens to shoot with MP and 1D MkIII, revealed that he is looking at the M8 because the post processing on film is just so painful. It's so difficult to get a good scan at a economical price. Yes, now I understand... digital cuts the pain for people who shoot for a living. It's so efficient and cost effective to go digital. Customers want things fast and cheap. And digital is the only logical way to go. Staying with film for professional work nowadays is just like competing in a F1 race with a 1965 VW Beetle.

Then I asked myself... since I am not a professional, I only need a camera for testing my Voigtlander lenses, why do I have to hold on to such a beautiful tool just to fulfill my simple needs? Yes, scanning negatives at 4800dpi takes a little longer time, probably 4 hours to finish 36 frames and another hour doing a little post processing levels and trimming the edges... BUT, I get a almost 16megapixel resolution file. And with USM at 100% with 2px, I get a almost film grade finish that I feel none of the digital camera with a sub S$7000 price tag can match. ;p And my Canoscan 8800F is only S$305. *Sorry please don't flame me for this... it's just a personal preference*

Hence, this little beauty is not going to see much use in my hands. I probably won't treasure it as much as someone who are more comfortable with digital. In my opinion, this camera works best in a wedding photographer's hands. WHY? The viewfinder gives a 1:1 view. That means, one will not get dizzy spell with both eyes open looking through the VF. Hence it allows the photographer frame, compose and time the shot better. I personally like the Bessa R3M very much as it allows me to immerse in the surrounding. It allows me to capture the action just like I am part of the story. I must congratulate and thank Mr K for getting this right. I don't have to pop Panadol after a day of shooting anymore...

It's a sad departure. I told one of my customers yesterday (who happened that he just bought a new M8 and was picking up the 40mm/f1.4 and 21mm/f4) about my intention of selling the R-D1... he said... "are you sure? you sound like you are still in love with the R-D1 and you bear to sell it?" Well, at least he could see from my eyes...

So, it's not about the camera, as some of you have asked me. The R-D1 is an excellent tool for the photographer. It's the other one on this planet earth that is digital and can mount Leitz, Nokton, Ultron, Skopar, Heliar, ZM & Hexar. The other alternative was going on the street at SGD7600 (as confirmed by my customer yesterday, price has gone up).

If you ever find one good copy, grab it before it is too late...
 

Hmmm.. kinda difficult to shoot a RF in a wedding. Maybe when things are kinda slow or you can focus as fast as a striking cobra. Even with AF on my RF, I find it kinda limiting having to point and refocus especially when comparing it to the forty plus focus points on my mk2. This is especially true as a prime wedding photographer when you have to get the must have shots and those moments in the nick of time. Its hard trying to beat an dSLR in weddings. The other issue about using RF and film in weddings is the color cast and lighting issues. Correcting colors on film that you've just scanned in 4 hours, that was shot in 2800k, 5500k and 6700k light.. without the necessary cumbersome filters... awesome headaches. Just adds more time to the images you have to process and edit.

But, when i'm not working.. hehehe.. its always the RF that stays in my car or in my backpack when i go out for outings. I still process and edit the filmscans digitally but this is leisure and not work. Taking out the loupe and going through contacts, selecting potential winners and scanning them.. cleaning them and creating printable digital files for the large format inkjets.. kinda enjoyable.. WHEN you are not working.. hhahahaah.

I guess that R-D1 wasnt meant to be mine.. or maybe I'm destined to buy an M8.. either way, for the moment, I'm happy my G2 is still with me. BTW, Chiff, have u ever thought about importing and distributing CZ lenses?
 

Hmmm.. kinda difficult to shoot a RF in a wedding. Maybe when things are kinda slow or you can focus as fast as a striking cobra. Even with AF on my RF, I find it kinda limiting having to point and refocus especially when comparing it to the forty plus focus points on my mk2. This is especially true as a prime wedding photographer when you have to get the must have shots and those moments in the nick of time. Its hard trying to beat an dSLR in weddings. The other issue about using RF and film in weddings is the color cast and lighting issues. Correcting colors on film that you've just scanned in 4 hours, that was shot in 2800k, 5500k and 6700k light.. without the necessary cumbersome filters... awesome headaches. Just adds more time to the images you have to process and edit.

But, when i'm not working.. hehehe.. its always the RF that stays in my car or in my backpack when i go out for outings. I still process and edit the filmscans digitally but this is leisure and not work. Taking out the loupe and going through contacts, selecting potential winners and scanning them.. cleaning them and creating printable digital files for the large format inkjets.. kinda enjoyable.. WHEN you are not working.. hhahahaah.

I guess that R-D1 wasnt meant to be mine.. or maybe I'm destined to buy an M8.. either way, for the moment, I'm happy my G2 is still with me. BTW, Chiff, have u ever thought about importing and distributing CZ lenses?

Glad your G2 is still with you & it's put to good use:)
 

BTW, Chiff, have u ever thought about importing and distributing CZ lenses?
Can't bring in CZ lenses as they are exclusively carried by Shriro. If I were to bring in, then it will be a grey set. And I cannot provide warranty. Which is not my business principal. I do not believe business is about one off sale. After sale service to me is more important than making the sale itself. :)
 

Glad your G2 is still with you & it's put to good use:)

Well.. am pretty much enjoying it :D
Enjoying ur m8? How come never see any pics even though already digital? :)
 

Can't bring in CZ lenses as they are exclusively carried by Shriro. If I were to bring in, then it will be a grey set. And I cannot provide warranty. Which is not my business principal. I do not believe business is about one off sale. After sale service to me is more important than making the sale itself. :)

For re-export to.. say a friendly neighbouring country but yet providing your renown customer service (even though I'm yet to be a customer.. ur reputation preceeds you :))
 

Very much so. First time taking raw. No time to learn Aperture yet! :embrass: You won't believe my lens collection now.

Well.. am pretty much enjoying it :D
Enjoying ur m8? How come never see any pics even though already digital? :)
 

I can understand that kind of feeling Chiif experience. They called that "Lens / camera masturbation" Lol!!!!
Many of us have a staple camera set that we use. It like you may not love it that much but it delivers what you want. The deriable set that you are always pursuing is like the mitsress. Always so out of reach but loveable and craving for it at certain time of your life. Once u get it, play with it, boredom comes in and you want to get a change.

Recently, I acquired a full set of Mamiya 6 plus 3 lens when I was overseas. The condition was like new but nobody seems to be asking or buying it from the shelf. And the price was very reasonable. So, now I got another mistress when I came back to Singapore. And that's after I sold off my Hasselblad 503CW. haha.....

Think I am gonna have a great time with my new mistress.....

OMG, this thread is getting morally so not right.....very poisoning....photographic decadence. Sigh!!!
 

Very much so. First time taking raw. No time to learn Aperture yet! :embrass: You won't believe my lens collection now.

Hehehe.. i shudder to think.. especially with the costs of Leica Ms.. that's why I'm looking into the CZ ones instead.. even CV.. wish I could justify the costs of these to the Ministry of Home Affairs.. heheheh
 

I can understand that kind of feeling Chiif experience. They called that "Lens / camera masturbation" Lol!!!!
Many of us have a staple camera set that we use. It like you may not love it that much but it delivers what you want. The deriable set that you are always pursuing is like the mitsress. Always so out of reach but loveable and craving for it at certain time of your life. Once u get it, play with it, boredom comes in and you want to get a change.

Recently, I acquired a full set of Mamiya 6 plus 3 lens when I was overseas. The condition was like new but nobody seems to be asking or buying it from the shelf. And the price was very reasonable. So, now I got another mistress when I came back to Singapore. And that's after I sold off my Hasselblad 503CW. haha.....

Think I am gonna have a great time with my new mistress.....

OMG, this thread is getting morally so not right.....very poisoning....photographic decadence. Sigh!!!
Jeff,

I couldn't agree more. The day I sold my R-D1, I picked up the Kowa 6. It took more than a month to reach me via vPost from the US. It was like a long courtship. Waited so long to get it on my hands, the feeling of undressing her was... oh no... in fact.. the best part of getting a package was the anticipation of opening the package.

Haven't have a chance to bring her out for shooting yet. But her built quality and the sound she makes makes me or****ic . (er... I shouldn't be so explicit. In fact, the forum software actually self sensor certain words, like the word "c o c k". It was replaced with **** from my above post. Actually it is a very harmless verb.)
 

Can't bring in CZ lenses as they are exclusively carried by Shriro. If I were to bring in, then it will be a grey set. And I cannot provide warranty. Which is not my business principal. I do not believe business is about one off sale. After sale service to me is more important than making the sale itself. :)

i am sure u have a great passion for the wonderful range of CV lens you sell.. shouldn't need cz lens to come in and intrude your 'love life' :)

upz.. to encourage a great voigtlander lover and a great seller!

p.s. i think the nokton 40mm 1.4 (single coated) is great!
 

Can't bring in CZ lenses as they are exclusively carried by Shriro. If I were to bring in, then it will be a grey set. And I cannot provide warranty. Which is not my business principal. I do not believe business is about one off sale. After sale service to me is more important than making the sale itself. :)

Very much so. First time taking raw. No time to learn Aperture yet! :embrass: You won't believe my lens collection now.

keen to sell some of your lens then ?;) i don't mind helping you babysit them too :)
 

Very much so. First time taking raw. No time to learn Aperture yet! :embrass: You won't believe my lens collection now.

I believe becasue I have seen and touch some of them. :bigeyes:
 

Ministry of Home Affair in the dark. Was arrested under ISA once & detained for 3 years!:sweat::sweat:
I have the Zeiss M21mmBiogon with mount changed to bring up 28 frameline and coded for M8 if you are interested. It is a great lens but have the Leica one now so thinking of selling. Also CV28Ultron & CV50Nokton.
Getting Leica lenses now cos prices are going up & during this transition time, sometime able to get them new or 2nd hand at "good" price.

Hehehe.. i shudder to think.. especially with the costs of Leica Ms.. that's why I'm looking into the CZ ones instead.. even CV.. wish I could justify the costs of these to the Ministry of Home Affairs.. heheheh
 

Sorry not for sale. Babysit can consider;)


do u happen to have a noctilux f1 for me to babysit?:think:

how much for the coded biogon 21mm? is it a f2.8?
 

Yes, I have Naughtylux. We can meet up this week as Minister of Home Affair is away. Wednesday is a good day. pm me to arrange if you are interested.

do u happen to have a noctilux f1 for me to babysit?:think:

how much for the coded biogon 21mm? is it a f2.8?
 

Yes, I have Naughtylux. We can meet up this week as Minister of Home Affair is away. Wednesday is a good day. pm me to arrange if you are interested.
2 doctors decided to get naughty when their wives and nurses are not around! :bigeyes:
 

Ministry of Home Affair in the dark. Was arrested under ISA once & detained for 3 years!:sweat::sweat:
I have the Zeiss M21mmBiogon with mount changed to bring up 28 frameline and coded for M8 if you are interested. It is a great lens but have the Leica one now so thinking of selling. Also CV28Ultron & CV50Nokton.
Getting Leica lenses now cos prices are going up & during this transition time, sometime able to get them new or 2nd hand at "good" price.

M21mm.. if it was for the G2.. yeah.. in a heartbeat.. but alas... have to wait till i get a M-mount.. I'll probably end up keeping the G2.. the more i think about it.. the less eager i am to sell it..

meanwhile.. i guess I'll lurk around waiting for that deal..

If you do see one at a reasonable price.. let me know..
 

2 doctors decided to get naughty when their wives and nurses are not around! :bigeyes:

shhh............:bsmilie::bsmilie::bsmilie:
 

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