My first glamor shots

leeshock · Apr 30, 2006

Hi huys, was at Bandar Utama on Friday for a fashion Gala. Took the 7D adn the 70-210 f4. I have uploaded the photos to my profile. The links are as follows:-

Comments are welcome.

leeshock · Apr 30, 2006

leeshock said:
Hi huys, was at Bandar Utama on Friday for a fashion Gala. Took the 7D adn the 70-210 f4. I have uploaded the photos to my profile. The links are as follows:-

Comments are welcome.

GENO · Apr 30, 2006

Leeshock, i think the pics are a bit blur, ask EOW what setting he uses for fashion shoot, he is damm pro in it..

airconvent · Apr 30, 2006

Hi
Was this using manual focus or auto focus?
If manual, then still ok...but for auto mode, one would expect the shots to be sharp most of the time, right? otherwise why go for DSLR?

eow · Apr 30, 2006

leeshock said:
Hi huys, was at Bandar Utama on Friday for a fashion Gala. Took the 7D adn the 70-210 f4. I have uploaded the photos to my profile. The links are as follows:-

think focusing is fine except the pics is being compressed a bit high ..might sharing what setting u use?

GENO said:
Leeshock, i think the pics are a bit blur, ask EOW what setting he uses for fashion shoot, he is damm pro in it..

shifu i'm still learning le.. mai hai wa....

leeshock · Apr 30, 2006

eow said:
think focusing is fine except the pics is being compressed a bit high ..might sharing what setting u use?

shifu i'm still learning le.. mai hai wa....

I was using 1/60 F4, ISO 200. I think its a bit slow when the models started walking but OK when they pause to pose for while. EOW what settings do u use?

grado · Apr 30, 2006

Were you using the centre focussing point? The other focus point may not be as fast in focussing... Also I think you might wanna up the ISO to 400 or more? Some of the pics lacks fill flash also...

looka · Apr 30, 2006

Very good shots. Great colour. I gues they can be better if you had better gear. Those soft looking photo are not your fault, its the Lens, 70-210/4. Its photo always show soft edges. I had this Lens too 4 years sold to my friend at $200. There are a few shot indicate your 7D may has the low-light-back-focus problem. You can check it out at Dpreview. my 5D afew time also had this problem with my 75-300.

grado · Apr 30, 2006

Hmm... I have a 70-210mm f4 but it didnt appear soft at the edges from my casual shoots... Could it be a bad copy? As I only have minolta film camera, here are some film scans taken around 2 years back with that lens...

looka · Apr 30, 2006

grado said:
Hmm... I have a 70-210mm f4 but it didnt appear soft at the edges from my casual shoots... Could it be a bad copy? As I only have minolta film camera, here are some film scans taken around 2 years back with that lens...

You see different result between film and CCD. You still have your film SLR? Try the lens on low light with and with flash then compare to your day shots. you will see the edge contrast is different. On CCD it is more obvious. CCD photo cell is not as dense as ISO 100-200 or even 400 film.

grado · Apr 30, 2006

looka said:
You see different result between film and CCD. You still have your film SLR? Try the lens on low light with and with flash then compare to your day shots. you will see the edge contrast is different. On CCD it is more obvious. CCD photo cell is not as dense as ISO 100-200 or even 400 film.

I sold the lens to reno77 and from the pics he took, didnt seem to have an issue with soft corners with his D5D? Maybe I should ask him again, hehe...

eow · Apr 30, 2006

leeshock said:
I was using 1/60 F4, ISO 200. I think its a bit slow when the models started walking but OK when they pause to pose for while. EOW what settings do u use?

it all depend on the lighting situation
However, if i'm in yr case i would upz the iso to 400 to increase flash range and shutter speed.

tankm · Apr 30, 2006

The 70-210mm f4 is generally a sharp lens.

leeshock....Can't see your photo EXIF to see the focal lens, aperture, ISO, shutter you are using. Care to enlighten us ? For focusing, did you use center focus and recompose ? Where do you lock focus on ?

jimjim · Apr 30, 2006

Is this considered the 'motion blur'?
I have my 70- 210 F4 and I never encounted this problem before even shots indoor.
Perhaps, you need to set the ISO to 400 to double up your shutter speed to get better still images?

leeshock · Apr 30, 2006

grado said:
Were you using the centre focussing point? The other focus point may not be as fast in focussing... Also I think you might wanna up the ISO to 400 or more? Some of the pics lacks fill flash also...

Yes, I was using Centre focussing for all the shots. Now that you have mentioned it, I shd have use ISO400 but I was concerned that the shots may be noisy. You are right. I shd increase the ISO and perhaps use F5.6. I was using the 3600.

looka said:
Very good shots. Great colour. I gues they can be better if you had better gear. Those soft looking photo are not your fault, its the Lens, 70-210/4. Its photo always show soft edges. I had this Lens too 4 years sold to my friend at $200. There are a few shot indicate your 7D may has the low-light-back-focus problem. You can check it out at Dpreview. my 5D afew time also had this problem with my 75-300.

I had one bad copy of the 70-210. Still keeping it. This is another copy which I tested under normal conditions (normal sunlight and outside) was OK. Never tested it with the flash though. I thought back focus shd be applicable to all situtaions, why only low light? Thanks for yr compliment, though.

eow said:
it all depend on the lighting situation
However, if i'm in yr case i would upz the iso to 400 to increase flash range and shutter speed.

You are right. Will do this when I get the chance again next time.

leeshock · Apr 30, 2006

tankm said:
The 70-210mm f4 is generally a sharp lens.

leeshock....Can't see your photo EXIF to see the focal lens, aperture, ISO, shutter you are using. Care to enlighten us ? For focusing, did you use center focus and recompose ? Where do you lock focus on ?

Yes, the EXIF were all lost when i downsized and sent over to ClubSnaps gallery. Couldn't copy the EXIF over but they are as follows :-

Centred
between 1/60 to 1/125
F4
ISO 200
Brightness 5.75
Metering mode Pattern
Flash
Colorspace SRGB
Contrast Normal
Saturation Normal
Sharpness 2
Gain control - none

leeshock · Apr 30, 2006

jimjim said:
Is this considered the 'motion blur'?
I have my 70- 210 F4 and I never encounted this problem before even shots indoor.
Perhaps, you need to set the ISO to 400 to double up your shutter speed to get better still images?

That's all what a lot of members here recommended. Will do that next time.

zcf · Apr 30, 2006

sometime I even shot at ISO 800 :sweat: , depend on lighting condition.

looka · May 1, 2006

grado said:
I sold the lens to reno77 and from the pics he took, didnt seem to have an issue with soft corners with his D5D? Maybe I should ask him again, hehe...

I had the Minolta AF80-200 G went I bought this 70-210/4 from USA. My compare was between those two. I start to notice its strange behave about its edge that make me look more into it. I found the amount of light make a big impact on its performance unlike the G which is very consistant. There are times on same subject and aperture, the 70-210 show one step faster shuttle than 80-200G when light fall it start to go below G. But I can't complaint my 70-210/4 was already 7 years old at that time. Anyway those were my encounter others maybe different. BTW I used Dynax 9 with Kodak Portra and Spectra(Ultracolor) film.

Agetan · May 1, 2006

looka said:
You see different result between film and CCD. You still have your film SLR? Try the lens on low light with and with flash then compare to your day shots. you will see the edge contrast is different. On CCD it is more obvious. CCD photo cell is not as dense as ISO 100-200 or even 400 film.

70-210 f4 is very sharp with flash or not...

Here is the sample..

1/10sec f4.0 @ iso800 no flash, handheld AS on

1/8sec f4.0 @iso800 w/flash handheld AS on

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