Minolta Leaked Secret.

[ninelives]

got this from "another forum" :


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A few months ago (May) I had the opportunity to ask some questions (over the phone) to a (European) Minolta
Product Manager. (I already putted this message in The Forum)

I want to buy the 200mm Macro but I'm also anxious to spend so much money knowing that Minolta is
gone put new SSM lenses on the market...but when? So that was my question to which I couldn't get an
answer: spend the money now for the 200Macro or wait a few weeks/months for one of the new SSM? At
least I decided to phone to Minolta and I had a lot off luck to have a PM at the other side...he gave me
two minutes...

The questions and answers:

1)When will the new lenses be available: shipment will be in
februari/march 2003; during spring 2003 in the shops.

2)Will they be compatible with my Dynax/Maxxum 9: YES

3)Do they have some sort of image stabilization system? NO, just the
new in-lens motor drive.(didn't tell anything about new optics or new
(digital)bodies)

He was for about 90% sure about this information which he received only a few days ago!!! (and still is
"company-secret")

That's all I know.(2 minutes is to short, I know but: it still is "company-secret")

(To find out more maybe one of you can try to get a PM from another country on the phone?)

Greetings,
Daniël



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[kongg]

Simi si SSM???

 

[ninelives]

Originally posted by kongg
Simi si SSM???

SSM = simi si minolta

 

[kongg]

My guess........super sonic motor???

 

[TME]

So we are going to get the same speed at autofocus like Canon and Nikon finally. But I think they are compatible only with the 5, 7 and 9. Doubt my 505si would be included in the compatible body list.

 

[ninelives]

Originally posted by TME
So we are going to get the same speed at autofocus like Canon and Nikon finally. But I think they are compatible only with the 5, 7 and 9. Doubt my 505si would be included in the compatible body list.

Dynax 7 is built with dual processor. It auto-focus speed is faster than any Canon and Nikon models.

But when talk about focus-tracking, Minolta is behind.

 

[ckiang]

Originally posted by ninelives
Dynax 7 is built with dual processor. It auto-focus speed is faster than any Canon and Nikon models.

But when talk about focus-tracking, Minolta is behind.

Uh oh.

Regards
CK

 

[Ian]

Originally posted by ninelives
Dynax 7 is built with dual processor. It auto-focus speed is faster than any Canon and Nikon models.

But when talk about focus-tracking, Minolta is behind.

Oh man the deluded doth speak

 

[rueyloon]

Originally posted by ninelives
Dynax 7 is built with dual processor. It auto-focus speed is faster than any Canon and Nikon models.

But when talk about focus-tracking, Minolta is behind.

the f90 is single processor, the f90X is dual processor... and that's like almost 10 years ago ? hehehe

 

[ninelives]

Originally posted by rueyloon


the f90 is single processor, the f90X is dual processor... and that's like almost 10 years ago ? hehehe

wat was the speed of your PC u used 3 years ago and wat is the speed you use today ?
but of coz, lens play a part.

 

[denizenx]

so where can one see the comparative tests? everyone says their brand is better...

F80 vs Dynax 5 - "KO! Purr-fect! Dynax 5 wins!" (Streetfighter 2 lingo for the ignorant), F80 in clouded bright daylight, Dynax 5 in Funan centre 6th floor.

the Dynax 7 gui is more chio though, never saw another camera with graphical metering feedback before...

 

[Ian]

Originally posted by denizenx
so where can one see the comparative tests? everyone says their brand is better...

So far no one has really come up with a dead accurate method of measuring AF performance as the only workable method involves surgery to both camera and lenses to measure the control outputs to the lens or body motor as the case may be.

 

[TME]

The only way is for u to line up all the cameras and take a common lens (i.e. manufactured by 3rd party like Signma or Tokina or Tamron or Cosina) that has mounts for all 3 big brands then do focussing. Time the focussing - photographer focusses and when the camera is done (i.e. lens stop hunting/moving), timer stops stopwatch. Of course not accurate but to lessen the inaccuracy and to exaggerate the minute difference, must do in low light condition. Focussing in good light is no problem at all for a capable SLR. Like that can? I think I suggest before right when there was another thread on this thing. No wonder ckiang say uh oh!!! hahaha.....was feeling curious about that reply........

 

[Ian]

Originally posted by TME
The only way is for u to line up all the cameras and take a common lens (i.e. manufactured by 3rd party like Signma or Tokina or Tamron or Cosina) that has mounts for all 3 big brands then do focussing. Time the focussing - photographer focusses and when the camera is done (i.e. lens stop hunting/moving), timer stops stopwatch. Of course not accurate but to lessen the inaccuracy and to exaggerate the minute difference, must do in low light condition. Focussing in good light is no problem at all for a capable SLR. Like that can? I think I suggest before right when there was another thread on this thing. No wonder ckiang say uh oh!!! hahaha.....was feeling curious about that reply........

These days even the 3rd party lenses are customised for the different AF mounts though they share common optics and external components.

Stopwatch timing is only as good as the person using the stopwatch. Typical lag is 0.1 to 0.2 seconds for the average person, but it would be interesting to see what results are gathered from various lenses and bodies.

 

[TME]

Originally posted by Ian


These days even the 3rd party lenses are customised for the different AF mounts though they share common optics and external components.

Stopwatch timing is only as good as the person using the stopwatch. Typical lag is 0.1 to 0.2 seconds for the average person, but it would be interesting to see what results are gathered from various lenses and bodies.

We can find the older 3rd party lens that do not have module specific electronics. For example a prime lens.

It actually doesn't matter that the stopwatch method has a time lag. We are doing a comparison. So as long as the same person does the timing, the errors can be considered consistent. But the methodolgy has to be examine more closely. We might want to focus the lens on some common object at a vastly different distance from the target object first for all the lens. This ensures that the focus is totally off in the same manner and degree from the desired focus point. Then we can use these "messed-up" focussed lens to refocus on another common point and see how fast the lens actually reaches focusses. One method (though inherently fraught with problems) is to use the focus priority. So when the timer hears the sound of the shutter going off, the camera has focused sufficiently to shoot. That can be considered as the sign of the lens in focus. Of course, this has got a lot to do with the electronics of the camera - what is the accepted focussed point such that the shutter will be triggered? I suppose the difference from brand to brand isn't all that different lah!


What you thinks?