How does the Canon HV30 compare with the Sony HC9E?
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jaegersing
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I bought an HV30 a few weeks ago to take on an overseas trip. The picture quality is superb, and I would recommend it any time. If you need manual controls, nearly everything is adjustable, and the little joystick is really well designed. can't imagine that the Sony comes anywhere close to this cam. Here's some footage I shot with the HV30.
http://www.vimeo.com/892592
http://www.vimeo.com/823821
http://www.vimeo.com/814237
http://www.vimeo.com/770502
http://www.vimeo.com/892592
http://www.vimeo.com/823821
http://www.vimeo.com/814237
http://www.vimeo.com/770502
engr
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HV30 has 25p.. Sony doesnt. HV30 is cheaper than HC-9e.. go for the Canon. BTW, I own a small/medium camcorder so I am not biased against Sony. Just fell that HV30 is quite value for money. N of cse HDV is a better choice than AVCHD at the moment if u r seriously into editing the footage.
Hi Richard,
Strange I have Flash 9 installed but can't view your videos.
Hi engr,
I went to read online about the 25p thingy. How does it actually work? The not-so-useful Canon website only says will make videos shot look like "professional movie maker".
Oh, so even though both Canon and Sony are HD cams, there's a diff betn HDV and AVCHD?
Gosh, there are so many subtle terminologies in videography, and I get many differing views. I wish they were simpler like digital photography!
Strange I have Flash 9 installed but can't view your videos.
Hi engr,
I went to read online about the 25p thingy. How does it actually work? The not-so-useful Canon website only says will make videos shot look like "professional movie maker".
Oh, so even though both Canon and Sony are HD cams, there's a diff betn HDV and AVCHD?
Gosh, there are so many subtle terminologies in videography, and I get many differing views. I wish they were simpler like digital photography!
oh yippe. I can watch the videos. Nice Richard. 
Oh some questions....
richard are you based in Singapore? Looks like I'm pretty convinced in getting the HV30. Not sure which is a good shop to buy from and if there are any free gifts thrown in.
by the way, I notice when you zoom out of a scene in Haifa, your exposure in the video remains fixed. How did you do that?
For me, using my present Canon videocam, whenever I zoom in or out, the exposure changes since the camera will automatically adjust it based on the new scene that it 'sees'. That doesn't make the video look nice or "pro".
thanks a lot!
Oh some questions....
richard are you based in Singapore? Looks like I'm pretty convinced in getting the HV30. Not sure which is a good shop to buy from and if there are any free gifts thrown in.
by the way, I notice when you zoom out of a scene in Haifa, your exposure in the video remains fixed. How did you do that?
For me, using my present Canon videocam, whenever I zoom in or out, the exposure changes since the camera will automatically adjust it based on the new scene that it 'sees'. That doesn't make the video look nice or "pro".
thanks a lot!
jaegersing
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Hi Andreq. Yes I live in Singapore, I got my cam at Alan Photo in SLS. Not sure what the current deals are, cos it keeps changing.
Exposure is fixed because I use the Exposure Lock feature of the camera. (I don't know if the Sony has such a feature.) If there is too much variation between the zoomed-in and zoomed-out positions, I tend to expose for the highlights, to avoid making it too bright. Then if necessary, I can adjust the dark areas while editing. The HV30 has zebra bars that are great for checking the exposure, I use them all the time.
Richard
Exposure is fixed because I use the Exposure Lock feature of the camera. (I don't know if the Sony has such a feature.) If there is too much variation between the zoomed-in and zoomed-out positions, I tend to expose for the highlights, to avoid making it too bright. Then if necessary, I can adjust the dark areas while editing. The HV30 has zebra bars that are great for checking the exposure, I use them all the time.
Richard
HV 30 is not bad. Color and details are good. Get a High Definition software to fully utilise the fully potential of the camera.
Hi hi...
Thanks.
Do you have any titles to recommend? I heard Sony Vegas (basic edition) cannot fully utilize it? got to get the pro version, which costs many several hundred $$? :bigeyes:
I just realize Sony is giving away the Vegas with their 9E purchase, though it's the basic version, better than nothing. If only Canon has an offer similar to this...
tchoonyong
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Hmmm I not very video person but from what I know, you can get Pinnacle Studio or Adobe Premiere.
I would suggests using adobe premiere and vegas as they are better than pinnacle studio which i used before contained alot of bugs that hindered your video editing.
In fact, the HV20 (predecessor of HV30) had very rave reviews all over the world. I saw some sample videos of the HV30 by users (forgot which website) and it was really impressive. Many people assume that Sony is better (because of advertising perhaps?), but I'd strongly urge you to check out the reviews online and see the difference for yourself. Brace yourself for a big surprise too!
engr
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AVCHD is highly compressed codec compared to HDV. So far NLEs cant handle it well.. u can edit but the playback is not smooth making it quite frustrating. HDV is very established by now so all NLEs can handle easily. Thing is the 25P mode will not be straight forward for some NLEs to handle. 25Progressive is close to film cadence so it feels like "film" so to speak. Of cse there are many other elements involved to make it look like film like DOF. The other mode is 50i which is interlaced. Still very nice and good for fasting moving action n panning. Anyway, I would strongly recommend you to go for HV30. Price is right at SGD1.8k if I'm not wrong. If u have the $$, u can couple with a Brevis35 DOF adapter and yr output will be quite amazing!
Sony Vegas handles 25P quite easily as it has a template to select from to perform the pulldown. It is one of the easiest NLE in my opinion. All NLEs have their pros n cons but for a beginner, Vegas is good in my opinion. Price can be within SGD400. Check out B&H from New York. U can ship it into SG for a reasonable pricing. Have fun.
Sony Vegas handles 25P quite easily as it has a template to select from to perform the pulldown. It is one of the easiest NLE in my opinion. All NLEs have their pros n cons but for a beginner, Vegas is good in my opinion. Price can be within SGD400. Check out B&H from New York. U can ship it into SG for a reasonable pricing. Have fun.
astroboy
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Let's say a TV network is interested in a footage i shot... will the quality be good enuff... if shot using the HV30?
jaegersing
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If you shoot it well and the subject is of interest then they would probably use it. If you don't shoot it well, I doubt that the camera type will be the deciding factor.
astroboy
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Did some mouseclicks and found the real answer here:
http://www.photolibrary.com/contributors.html?event=producers
Which begs the next question:
Does the HV30 REALLY shoot at HD 1920x1080 25fps as advertised?
:think:
http://www.photolibrary.com/contributors.html?event=producers
Which begs the next question:
Does the HV30 REALLY shoot at HD 1920x1080 25fps as advertised?
:think:
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