Desire to own a Leica

[ZoomZ]

Congrats for your purchase.

You will not regret your purchase... for a while. Until the next Leica M version appears..... speaking from my own experience of owning the M9P.

And to delay this potential regret... try not to visit Clubsnap too often. Bad influence here. Many poisonous people.

Thanks to all. I made my decision and purchased a m240 2 days ago. I know despite many of your kind advice that I should use a film or used camera first, I still went ahead with it. I did not put myself in debt for this. I just managed to sell a few of my older cameras. I also bought a summaron 35mm 3.5 as a stop gap while I start saving for a better 35mm. The camera is wonderful to use and I have not regretted my decision, hopefully I never will.

 

[crispy12]

Try some of the Voigtlander or Zeiss lenses if you can't afford the Leica versions. They offer really good quality. I really recommend the Voigtlander 35mm f1.4, very small and relatively cheap.

Congrats on your purchase, keep on shooting!

 

[keithwee]

Congrats for your purchase.

You will not regret your purchase... for a while. Until the next Leica M version appears..... speaking from my own experience of owning the M9P.

And to delay this potential regret... try not to visit Clubsnap too often. Bad influence here. Many poisonous people.

hor! u also very de poisonous too haha

 

[NorthernLights]

M240 is a good choice. ISO is better.

To me, no point holding on to the traditional Leica.

It only means 1 thing: The Leica RF is dead. The last are the M9P and Monochrome. Leica is pragmatic and progressive. However, the only restrictive aspect are the manual only lenses under the m-mount. Leica glass is superior, to all of us who have used them.

But, how do they stand in the next 50 years against a world that uses fast AF, new, modern photographers who never used manual vs the shooters who are sentimental about the equipment they used as a kid many light years ago.

The conclusion is foregone. One day, we will see M-mount AF lenses.

 

[zixaw]

M240 is a good choice. ISO is better.

To me, no point holding on to the traditional Leica.

It only means 1 thing: The Leica RF is dead. The last are the M9P and Monochrome. Leica is pragmatic and progressive. However, the only restrictive aspect are the manual only lenses under the m-mount. Leica glass is superior, to all of us who have used them.

But, how do they stand in the next 50 years against a world that uses fast AF, new, modern photographers who never used manual vs the shooters who are sentimental about the equipment they used as a kid many light years ago.

The conclusion is foregone. One day, we will see M-mount AF lenses.

One day but not in the near future, the death of manual focus lenses have been announced since AF was introduced many years ago, yet some of the latest, best and sharpest lenses are still manual focus only. I personally think it is a size and weight problem.

 

[shepherdmoon]

Agree, size and weight will be the major concern when going for AF, at least for me now. But I would say that some of the Nikon gold ring G lenses have similar sharpness and mood as Leica lenses, or even better. But I hate the weight and size, maybe because I am getting old...

One day but not in the near future, the death of manual focus lenses have been announced since AF was introduced many years ago, yet some of the latest, best and sharpest lenses are still manual focus only. I personally think it is a size and weight problem.

 

[ricohflex]

Contax G series (film camera) has proved it is possible to manufacture AF lenses at that small size.
Maybe Leica is worried about the same problem that Canon had when it introduced the EF mount that was incompatible with the FD mount.
• Can it afford to alienate the users and owners of Leica M lenses if the new AF mount is incompatible.
• Even if it can do that, is AF what the majority of their current (and future) users want?

 

[NazgulKing]

Contax G series (film camera) has proved it is possible to manufacture AF lenses at that small size.
Maybe Leica is worried about the same problem that Canon had when it introduced the EF mount that was incompatible with the FD mount.
• Can it afford to alienate the users and owners of Leica M lenses if the new AF mount is incompatible.
• Even if it can do that, is AF what the majority of their current (and future) users want?

Theoretically they can add AF contacts but whether Leica dares to do it is another matter.

 

[NazgulKing]

One day but not in the near future, the death of manual focus lenses have been announced since AF was introduced many years ago, yet some of the latest, best and sharpest lenses are still manual focus only. I personally think it is a size and weight problem.

It is possible but one would have to design for it. Most rangefinder lenses involve moving the entire lens to shift focus. That entails a large motor to drive the whole thing. Throw in floating elements and you complicate the mechanical design. Design for focusing groups and you might have issues with the lens not being parfocal. So it's cheaper to design for non AF in the end.

 

[roger8]

one possibility is to make the sensor move for the AF but given the size of the M body (which is a Leica M philosophy) hence I think they have abandoned the idea.

 

[NazgulKing]

one possibility is to make the sensor move for the AF but given the size of the M body (which is a Leica M philosophy) hence I think they have abandoned the idea.

I think Leica shooters should move out of the "smallness" idea if they really want the optical perfection that they so 'crave' for.

 

[zixaw]

I think Leica shooters should move out of the "smallness" idea if they really want the optical perfection that they so 'crave' for.

True, but that will be one less thing that separates them from the rest. I shoot mostly with my Leica S, so anything smaller than that is welcome.

 

[NazgulKing]

True, but that will be one less thing that separates them from the rest. I shoot mostly with my Leica S, so anything smaller than that is welcome.

Heavens... I would love to shoot with that camera.... :bsmilie:

But really. There are physical limitations to all the smallness and it's quite evident from Leica's problems with color shifts at the corners even with their premium lenses like the 35mm FLE. Software correction can only go so far.

 

[roger8]

Personally I am one of the few lucky ones who do not have a problem with manual focus. Just sharing what I found out when I spoke with Peter Karbe. The small foot print is historical and this is their legacy which they guard jealously.