Kimura_papaya
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Huh...this is not my work :lovegrin:
i say the picture has a good speaker, takuya with D300, power! if nikon intro d60 must get a cute model like ayumi-san then.;p
Huh...this is not my work :lovegrin:
i say the picture has a good speaker, takuya with D300, power! if nikon intro d60 must get a cute model like ayumi-san then.;p
Hi CSers,
I can't understand why in this world of techonology where pixel war is of considerably importance and noise reduction comparrison is an on going discussion yet the D700 is still not over the 20MP mark.?
I'm fine with the 12.1 offered by D700, Just curious on why Nikon always seems slower in catching up except for the 1st DSLR which captures movie.
rdgs
SM
maybe due to relying on sony to make them the sensor which make them fall back on technology.... forexample sony might not be telling them what sensor they were developing and so fort .. therefore nikon cant really plan ahead ... if u can recall there are a lot of article dunno weather its by nikon or not couple of year back maybe 3-5 year back saying full frame are no good and write 100 reason why 1.5x crop is good :sweatsm:
u probably right, i think 12.1 or 12.3 is more than a decent range. 24mp can print up to A1 size poster provided u know how to edit the picture well. 12.3 can print a relatively decent A3 size or A2 size picture which is good enough for many user.
honestly, even my old D70 can still give me a decent stack sharp picture in 8 x 12R, so i think it is a matter of good lenses produce good picture not about the body.
21mp is definitely too crazy way i see, u need a good PC with big ram capacity and big HDD to archive as well as process the file.
SM dear,
historically, nikon has been in the "conservative domain" in product market and launching. u are right, nikon does launch "certain" technology like Digital sensor, ISO handling, picture process engine in Expeed, fairly later compare to its market competitor like Canon. Canon is always more aggressive in its marketting strategy.
but yet, take a look at why nikon does that. during film day, nikon produce its F series pro body once every 10 year interval, as to maintain its market position as leading producer for prof body camera. 10 years on RnD for a prof body is really no jokes.
unlike its competitor, canon, nikon done extensive researches and testing as to make sure its technology stable, that caused the delay to launching. being a nikon user from film day, i went thru not many, but F80, F100, d70, now D90, i can tell you something i am very sure of.
nikon is good in producing tack sharp lens (prime lens particularly, solid build in most nikon lenses), that is why its 2nd hand value good. Also, nikon's metering system, flash technology, and its shutter lifespan, design, its probably one of the prominent in the world. i am saying compare to its class in 35mm format. not medium nor large format.
in term of technology, nikon stable, consistent. Even before the newer model came up, nikon will stop production for its predessor model to maintain their value. so i am saying one thing good about nikon, their strategy never short changes their user, always keep good value for their gear. ask urself a question before u post that, if nikon lose in market, why there are still a lot of fans willing to stick through with her? its becos of its 90 years of extensive research and development experience in photography area.
Well, if nikon is really that great, why won't they even bother to develop their own image sensor but instead be held by the neck by sony? I rather think their product lanuch is slower because they are still waiting for sony, haha! Cost-effective measure for a leader in 35mm equip? hmm....
Can't dispute how well nikon were in the '80s and '90s. But until very recently, their DSLR line was really pale compare to Canon. I had quite a few nikon film camera myself, but never a DSLR yet.
Most die-hard fans talk about nikon glorious past, but I think we all need to be objective and not to mix emotion and preference over real performances. Till this day, I think nikon's jpeg alogrithm still sucks big time (yes, jpeg is impt!).
Notwithstanding, I am not here to start a fight, but hoping that nikon could do more to convince people like myself to switch back once again. Then we need not be at the mercy of Canon's marketing tactics.
Btw, anyone here want to sell their D200 at sub-1K price to me so I do not have to mount my old nikon lenses onto my Canon body with those troublsom adapters thingy? Can't understand why nikon do not allow the Dxx series to be compatible with their wonderfull old prime lenses. Even the cheapest canon DSLR could do that, this is a joke!:angry:
what is it about Nikon`s Jpeg algor that you didnt like? I tried canon and I use Nikon. Either way the jpeg are pretty much the same. the only thing that I always thought Nikon lost out to canon was the AF speed and the high ISO. but now that has changed with the emergence of D300, D3, D700 and D90.Well, if nikon is really that great, why won't they even bother to develop their own image sensor but instead be held by the neck by sony? I rather think their product lanuch is slower because they are still waiting for sony, haha! Cost-effective measure for a leader in 35mm equip? hmm....
Can't dispute how well nikon were in the '80s and '90s. But until very recently, their DSLR line was really pale compare to Canon. I had quite a few nikon film camera myself, but never a DSLR yet.
Most die-hard fans talk about nikon glorious past, but I think we all need to be objective and not to mix emotion and preference over real performances. Till this day, I think nikon's jpeg alogrithm still sucks big time (yes, jpeg is impt!).
Notwithstanding, I am not here to start a fight, but hoping that nikon could do more to convince people like myself to switch back once again. Then we need not be at the mercy of Canon's marketing tactics.
Btw, anyone here want to sell their D200 at sub-1K price to me so I do not have to mount my old nikon lenses onto my Canon body with those troublsom adapters thingy? Can't understand why nikon do not allow the Dxx series to be compatible with their wonderfull old prime lenses. Even the cheapest canon DSLR could do that, this is a joke!:angry:
what is it about Nikon`s Jpeg algor that you didnt like? I tried canon and I use Nikon. Either way the jpeg are pretty much the same. the only thing that I always thought Nikon lost out to canon was the AF speed and the high ISO. but now that has changed with the emergence of D300, D3, D700 and D90.
Another point is that Canon`s FD lenses still need an adaptor to mount on to their DSLRs. Nikon doesnt need to but then you just cant do auto exposure with it. unless you have the mid level body and above.