B&W Printing fees
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Actually you can shoot real B&W film (not those using C41 processing like the Ilford XP2 and Kodak 400BNC) and send to Ruby Photo at Penisula (City Hall) or KT Imaging (Hong Lim Complex) for processing. Both of them send to freelance people for processing the film at about $5-6. For printing (darkroom) it is about 80 cents for 3R at Ruby, $1.80 for 4R. Cheaper will be at Fee Fee Photo (near KT Imaging at Hong Lim complex) at 80cents for 4R. Bigger size I am not sure.
Hope these helps.
Hope these helps.
You might wan to try both Fee Fee and Ruby and see which one you prefer.
The price for contact prints are about the same for both.
$9 (Process+contact) for Ruby and $10 (Process+contact) for Fee.
3R and 4R are more expensive at Ruby as mentioned by theITguy.
I tried both and prefer Ruby, though more expensive.
But then, to each his own.......
The price for contact prints are about the same for both.
$9 (Process+contact) for Ruby and $10 (Process+contact) for Fee.
3R and 4R are more expensive at Ruby as mentioned by theITguy.
I tried both and prefer Ruby, though more expensive.
But then, to each his own.......
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jcryan55
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It may be good to learn how to fish then people giving u the fish. If u r serious abt the image that u r going to enlarge later on, it maybe worth the while to do the developing yrself as you have better control that way. The commercially done development (esp for the B&W film) are not well controlled and they normally uses a standard process without much consideration for the subjects u took. Also, most would use reuseable chemicals too to cut down their base costs.
Why not ask around those that have drabble with darkroom and try doingthe developing yrself. After that you can send out to print or scan. Developing can done at home without need for darkroom.
See yr PM. I send u some details.
Why not ask around those that have drabble with darkroom and try doingthe developing yrself. After that you can send out to print or scan. Developing can done at home without need for darkroom.
See yr PM. I send u some details.
jcryan55 said:
as mentioned, the chemicals used are... really...
ultimately it'll be back to ya to print because ya're e one who visualised.
but not to forget there are also master printers out there who prints for other. (but that's a totally different league, btw anyone inspired to be one?)
Fuji FDI can actually recognise B&W negs and output them like normal colour negs. but personally I find e over high contrast and low resolution of e prints unacceptable.. esp if ya have a tacky image.
alternatively, consider neg scan. thought ya might not be able to output to large print, it will give ya insight to e digital darkroom (almost everything ya can find on PS, can be done in e darkroom. almost)
join a club with a darkroom, or do ya own developing.
or wait for another pass-it-on session in offstone.. (eternity)
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Tucker
Well, if you're doing as a project basis, and not intending into going into the darkroom full time, c-41 is definately the way to go. BW400CN ought to cook your goose..just drop it off at any neighbour hood shop and ask them for a print. You could use silver gelatins BW films, but it'll be abit of an overkill if you don't intend to utilize their characteristics to their full potential.
However, if you decide you would want to try the silver gelatin films, do remember that printing and developing here is abit substandard (all commercial outlets tend to be).
However, if you decide you would want to try the silver gelatin films, do remember that printing and developing here is abit substandard (all commercial outlets tend to be).
Wisp said:
Most printers like Fee Fee would do straight printing at that kind of price that's mentioned. Don't expect them to spend 45 minutes to do one print for you at that price. Custom printing could cost as much as $50 for 8R if you want it done properly.
Would advise against shooting on kodak bw400cn if u intend to print it in dark room. The orange mask and tint on the neg makes it be very difficult to get a good print out of it (very flat), and it won't have the grainy characteristic of silver halide negs (grains are damn small, focusing it on the enlarger can be tricky at times, esp when your eyes are tired). I would however recommend Ilford xp2 super if you wanna do C-41, that one's still printable in darkroom, whether you shoot it from iso 50 to 1000.
However, they scan really well and you can do your own dodge and burn in PS. Plus the marvel of ICE technology that works on c-41. Depends on what you're using it for, really.
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Perhaps if time and resources are scarce for you, shooting bulk-rolled slides would be cheaper for you. Self-rolls cost around $6 per roll and processing is $6 at Fotohub. What you shoot is what you get on the slide. No need to depend on printers and their interpretation of your images, if you have no need to print them out.
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my apolgoies for going off topic. My eyes were pasted with stamps. :thumbsd:
theITguy said:
marios_pittas
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Oh.... I don't know about this one.. I have some great shots and prints on TCN400 120.. nice contrast, good enlargements etc.. "not a real black and white film" hmm.. but seriously..canturn said:
With regards to Illord XP2.. I lost faith on that one but to be fair sometimes where you develop it matters according to one, so, before one condemns one, one must check properly one..
p.s. I still use TMX 400 and 100 most of the time.. but not in every country of the world can one find the 120 / 220 film of their choice.. also known as "beggars can't be choosers" which every MF shooter must get used to (ask LF users who have mastered the art of make do)
-- Marios
maggie said:
Of course it can be done! Properly done, the prints are beautiful. Different from traditional silver gelatin prints which I prefer, but beautiful.
There is a Circle of Light meeting this Sunday in Epsite in Wheelock place. You will meet people who do B&W inkjet printing. Sign up for this in the gatherings section.
Maggie
There is nothing wrong with shooting black and white film and sending out for processing and printing. It is just that you are losing the control edge which make this medium what it is - at least this is my opinion. No matter who process and prints for you - it could be an average commerical printer, it could an artist ( these are quite rare and those who are true artist do 3 things - they charge a heffty premium {time, skill and effort have a cost factor}, they are dam selective who they do work for, they are normally more to busy to take in too many new clients) the final print will not be the same as if you had done it yourself (assuming you can do technical part of the printing well enough).
You may be better served using color negs and getting the processed color negs high res scan - see thread on Kex and other scan service providers, converting in PS to black and white and printing in ink jet or on color neg paper. Average printing on ink jet is not a problem - it become one when you want fine control of what is printed to look like what you made it in PS. Then you get to the art part where you want the print to look different from run of the mill prints.
Some time this year, there will be a local workshop on printing black and white images on inkjets. Look out for it.
There is nothing wrong with shooting black and white film and sending out for processing and printing. It is just that you are losing the control edge which make this medium what it is - at least this is my opinion. No matter who process and prints for you - it could be an average commerical printer, it could an artist ( these are quite rare and those who are true artist do 3 things - they charge a heffty premium {time, skill and effort have a cost factor}, they are dam selective who they do work for, they are normally more to busy to take in too many new clients) the final print will not be the same as if you had done it yourself (assuming you can do technical part of the printing well enough).
You may be better served using color negs and getting the processed color negs high res scan - see thread on Kex and other scan service providers, converting in PS to black and white and printing in ink jet or on color neg paper. Average printing on ink jet is not a problem - it become one when you want fine control of what is printed to look like what you made it in PS. Then you get to the art part where you want the print to look different from run of the mill prints.
Some time this year, there will be a local workshop on printing black and white images on inkjets. Look out for it.
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