ang peng siong's mistake was 'trivial'?
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Started late, blamed traffic jam and said there usually is a grace period. :nono:
It is trivial, our swimmers were not expected to win medal. :nono:
One is head coach, :thumbsd:
One is Chief SSA. :thumbsd:
India official taught us a lesson of not observing punctuality. They also make us realize that we have unprofessional people holding top jobs in the swimming organization. :think:
It is trivial, our swimmers were not expected to win medal. :nono:
One is head coach, :thumbsd:
One is Chief SSA. :thumbsd:
India official taught us a lesson of not observing punctuality. They also make us realize that we have unprofessional people holding top jobs in the swimming organization. :think:
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candycaine
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Gizmore, I don't see the difference between a bad judgement and a mistake.
The blame game will go around, maybe for a month, before fading away. It is only natural. However, while Mr Ang's excuse was verging on ridiculousness, SSA's handling of the incident did not make it any better. Evidently, their spirit is contradictory to that of the YOG which just ended, in which "the greatest glory is not finishing but in taking part".
Nevertheless, nothing more can be done, the incident is over. What SSA needs to do is to minimise the damage done (and evidently a lot of their credibility is now in question), as well as to find solutions to ensure that this does not happen again. There are just no two ways about this.
The blame game will go around, maybe for a month, before fading away. It is only natural. However, while Mr Ang's excuse was verging on ridiculousness, SSA's handling of the incident did not make it any better. Evidently, their spirit is contradictory to that of the YOG which just ended, in which "the greatest glory is not finishing but in taking part".
Nevertheless, nothing more can be done, the incident is over. What SSA needs to do is to minimise the damage done (and evidently a lot of their credibility is now in question), as well as to find solutions to ensure that this does not happen again. There are just no two ways about this.
fotoudavid
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f not ang peng siong, maybe the statement is different.
and it's TAX PAYER money ie our money... the SSA shouldn't speak in this manner
gilcrest
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The whole saga happened when APS ended up as Coach and team manager for the team. Usually its the responsibility of the TM for entries submissions and not the coach. Being late was not the issue but the administration of the competition should have been effected earlier for that matter. Given that Commonwealth Games is a high level event; I wondered why the orbat chart for the team is so short handed from that NSA.
APS has unreservedly accepted responsibility for his actions on national tv; a great gesture not many can partake if given in the same situation.
The NSA's statement on placing is not unfair to those who trained hard for the event. It only jeopardise the NSA for future chances of sending teams in the future to SSC.
spree86
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I think the SSA should shoulder the blame
They let one person bao shan bao hai bao ka liao
I don't believe that they cannot afford to send another official to do the admin work and let Mr Ang focus on training.
I agree, for such a well established swim team, why does the head coach need to do everything one leg kicking, i'm sure they could afford to send an assistant.
seriously, for the ssa chief to brush this oversight as no big deal, singapore sports council should review this debacle and consider replacing him! jeffrey leow certainly doesn't deserve to be ssa chief.
i really feel injustice for the quartet. they have so hard for this event and to be belittled as "7th place" finalist!
i really feel injustice for the quartet. they have so hard for this event and to be belittled as "7th place" finalist!
Rocky78
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YEP ! Agree with you.
But I think most probably there is infighting, unhappiness and unfairness within the SSA organization.
I will support APS as he was a Swimming Olympian and had worked his way up. The rest of the indian chiefs in SSA are just pen pushers and sitting in air-con office. They know nuts.
The SSA management must answer why no assistant was provided for APS !
The SSA management must explain WHY they viewed this incident as trivial. Do they viewed the time, energy and money spend in getting this team there cost nothing ? !
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whomovemycheese
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I see many people have their own opinion on this matter. Why don't the TS start a petition and send to PMO (prime minister office)?
kwttan
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I remember seeing the male TT player eyes filled with tears during interview then :bigeyes:
If compare these 2 incidents, the latter is more serious (late + disqualified).
artspraken
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PROBLEM ONE
"...our swimmers were not expected to win medals..."
I have serious concerns about Jeffrey Leow and Singapore Swimming Association.
This is very poor public relations damage control. You may want to protect your coach, but do not insult your own athletes and yourselves as SSA.
PROBLEM TWO
If it is true that APS left the village at 245pm when the deadline is 3pm, there is a serious problem with APS. Shouldn't APS target to arrive at least half an hour early. If he leave at 245pm, then surely he is to blame, because he is targetting last minute submission? APS like to do things last minute? Even schoolchildren are taught never to submit schoolwork last minute?
If you intend to do things last minute, do not use traffic jam as excuse. We are all grown up adults. We know that if you start to commute 15mins from deadline (in a foreign country), you are asking for trouble. This applies for any meeting in any organisation.
I sincerely hope APS did not depart at 245pm when the deadline is 3pm. If the answer is yes, he should be sacked.
"...our swimmers were not expected to win medals..."
I have serious concerns about Jeffrey Leow and Singapore Swimming Association.
This is very poor public relations damage control. You may want to protect your coach, but do not insult your own athletes and yourselves as SSA.
PROBLEM TWO
If it is true that APS left the village at 245pm when the deadline is 3pm, there is a serious problem with APS. Shouldn't APS target to arrive at least half an hour early. If he leave at 245pm, then surely he is to blame, because he is targetting last minute submission? APS like to do things last minute? Even schoolchildren are taught never to submit schoolwork last minute?
If you intend to do things last minute, do not use traffic jam as excuse. We are all grown up adults. We know that if you start to commute 15mins from deadline (in a foreign country), you are asking for trouble. This applies for any meeting in any organisation.
I sincerely hope APS did not depart at 245pm when the deadline is 3pm. If the answer is yes, he should be sacked.
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sharkspin
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My sympathy goes out to the 4 swimmers. Imagine having to get up early in the morning to train, maybe go for classes after and return to the pool in the afternoon to train again. Even if their qualification time is the 7th fastest, no chance of winning any medals....they can still do a personal best or break whatever existing record in S'pore.
What about their parents doing the rounds of sending them back and forth to pool/school/pool....
To trivialize this whole incident is indeed an insult to the 4 swimmers, their parents and all who supported them.
What about their parents doing the rounds of sending them back and forth to pool/school/pool....
To trivialize this whole incident is indeed an insult to the 4 swimmers, their parents and all who supported them.
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