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Toying wif the idea of buyin either G5, C5050 or A1. Most likely an A1. Just wanna know what is the retail price now. Where is the best place to buy (wif great price) and usually what is in the package? How much does additional battery cost? Does it come wif any filter?
 

Hi the A1 is a camera that makes me very happy especially with the zoom and the wide angle (28 mm)
IN the box, you get a lens,hood, 16 mb card, cd-rom, batt.
For good prices, you can refer to this post
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=28172

Btw , i have a sample from the A1
something i took


scene14.jpg
 

solomon76 said:
Hi the A1 is a camera that makes me very happy especially with the zoom and the wide angle (28 mm)
IN the box, you get a lens,hood, 16 mb card, cd-rom, batt.
For good prices, you can refer to this post
http://forums.clubsnap.org/showthread.php?t=28172

Btw , i have a sample from the A1
something i took


scene14.jpg

U mentioned wide angle (28mm) ... is that built in? Sorry I am very new to these stuff. I am 'upgrading' from my ol' Sony DSC-P1 :)

As per those reviews I read, some says the picture quality ain't as good as G3/C5050. Is that really that noticeable? Price wise, it is about 500 bux more than the G3/5050. What benefit do u think A1 has over those 2?
 

hi , alot of digicams range is about 35mm --- 3*35 mm for a 3 x optical zoom.
So in order to move to 28 mm or lens there need to be some attachment.
For the A1, the range is 28 mm - 200.. its basically a 7 x optical zoom lens. The lens are pretty good , not much purple fringing for objects or edges that are veri bright.
The lens of this camera is veri versitale, from scenery shots and sports shots.. the zoom range covers it all, moreover for the macro shots.. you can juz screw in a cheap close-up filter and you can get something like this .
flora015.JPG

Moreover this camera has the AS function. which is able to allow you to take photos at slow shutter speeds.

Basically you have a lens for different photographing needs
The batt life is good too!
AND the feel of the camera makes you feel pro , at least for me
 

ndroo said:
U mentioned wide angle (28mm) ... is that built in? Sorry I am very new to these stuff. I am 'upgrading' from my ol' Sony DSC-P1 :)

As per those reviews I read, some says the picture quality ain't as good as G3/C5050. Is that really that noticeable? Price wise, it is about 500 bux more than the G3/5050. What benefit do u think A1 has over those 2?

The wide angle is "build in", although that is not a common way to describe it.
A point to note is that G3 is a 4MP, diff from the other 2, which are 5MP.
A better comparision will be G5, which is also 5MP.

Yes, the price is $400+ more, but you get a much bigger zoom range, in particularly the wide 28mm and the 200mm tele. It is mechnically link, so response is very fast. There are a lot of other ergonomic advantage that are more difficult to list down, but you will only feel it when you use it. And once you are get use to those stuff, you'll wonder how any camera can do without it.

You will find the A1 to be much more capable than the other 2 listed. If you want to get a general purpose camera, A1 will beat them flat, assuming the bigger size isn't a problem for you. If you need a camera for diving though, A1 will not be suitable (neither will be the G3/G5) as they do not have budget underwater casing.

If you take a good look at the reviews, it will say that certain areas of image quality isn't as good certain areas better. In the real world, the quality among those camera aren't going to be significant, if anything the difference will be more important in terms of personal preference. Go ahead and try out different cameras and get a feel yourself.

BTW, if you are considering C5050, the only advantage it has over the other 2 is that it has a f/1.8 lens, and that it is great for diving usage. If these are not important factors for you, then you can probably forget about the C5050. Also do consider the C5060 which is recently launched.
 

hmmm thanks guys. glad i found this site. hmm think i'll probably be a proud new owner of an A1 soon ;)

being a newbie, guess there's lots of stuff i need to learn :) but digging thru this forum, guess that makes things a lot easier.

any idea how much a additional battery will cost? what a about a uv filter? it doesn't come wif the package rite?

from what i c, the A1 is pretty new rite? launched not long ago? so is the price now much lower compared to let's say 3 months ago (if it is launch that long already) :)

thanks again to everyone

how do we post pictures on this forum? i u guys can attach pics huh? can url work here? allow me 2 try (this simple pic was taken using my 'late' DSC-P1)

http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~ndroo/sample.htm
 

hmm doesn't work ... lemme try this ...

<img border="0" src="http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~ndroo/BaliPics/BALI2003_201.JPG" width="800" height="600">
 

can somebody help me? show me how 2 include a pic?
 

ndroo said:
can somebody help me? show me how 2 include a pic?

Just insert your image URL in between the image tag
.

Using your pic for example,

BALI2003_201.JPG
 

thanks man. now i noe ... :D
 

ndroo said:
any idea how much a additional battery will cost? what a about a uv filter? it doesn't come wif the package rite?

from what i c, the A1 is pretty new rite? launched not long ago? so is the price now much lower compared to let's say 3 months ago (if it is launch that long already) :)

The additional batt doesn't come cheap. Unless you really need it now, wait until third party units are available. Do note that for local shooting, the battery seems to have a pretty good life and hence there is no strong requirement for a spare battery. Of course, if you use it for a trip or use it to shoot something important then it is different.

UV filter. This is a tricky one, as normal uv filters are thick enough to cause vignetting at 28mm. Suggest you get the Minolta UV filter (49mm), it think it is about $29, can't remember liao........ That one is ok. Also note that if you want to use cir pol you probably need at least 62mm to avoid vignetting.
 

wow your info is a bit too 'chim' for me :)

"cir pol you probably need at least 62mm to avoid vignetting" ... errr....


wats 'cir pol' & 'vigenetting'? sorry for this but i really m new ...

appreciate your help

as for the standard battery, how long can it last?
 

hi,

in one of the answers, i saw "the only advantage it has over the other 2 is that it has a f/1.8 lens" ... can someone please help explain briefly (to a newbie), what are the diff f/1.8 lens n others? How do they differ?
 

ndroo said:
wow your info is a bit too 'chim' for me :)

"cir pol you probably need at least 62mm to avoid vignetting" ... errr....
wats 'cir pol' & 'vigenetting'? sorry for this but i really m new ...

as for the standard battery, how long can it last?

in one of the answers, i saw "the only advantage it has over the other 2 is that it has a f/1.8 lens" ... can someone please help explain briefly (to a newbie), what are the diff f/1.8 lens n others? How do they differ?

Pai Sei, too used to tech talk.

Cir Pol is a type of filter, full name is circular polarizer. Main use is to reduce reflection and to get a bluer sky. It is a very commonly used filter.

Vignetting appears on photos as dark corners in the photo. The cause is due to filter or other objects (in case really bad case, the lens itself) blocking off light going to the corner of the image. It is particularly common when using filter in wide angle lens, typically 28mm or wider. Typically to going around the issue, you'll use a bigger filter so that it doesn't block off the corners.

Standard battery should last you 300 shots or more, including substancial use of LCD and other functions. There are ways to save power substancially, so you should be able to go further than that.

f/1.8 refers to the maximum aperture of the lens. The bigger the aperture, the more light it will allow through. However, this is a inverse ratio, so smaller numbers actually means bigger aperture. All things being equal, a bigger aperture allows you to take picture in a darker environment.
 

Hiee...

FYI...stacking only one filter of 49mm Size Standard Hoya thickness will not cause vignetting at 28mm. You will onlyget vignetting when two 49mm filters are used e.g - stack Polariser and UV filter.

Here is an illustration which may help you ...understand the "not actually chim" stuff...

vignett.jpg


As a work around to avoid vignetting...the 2nd stacked filter would preferably be of a larger diameter...with a step up ring included....
regards,
Sulhan
 

sulhan said:
FYI...stacking only one filter of 49mm Size Standard Hoya thickness will not cause vignetting at 28mm. You will onlyget vignetting when two 49mm filters are used e.g - stack Polariser and UV filter.

That is odd, as I experience vignetting with a single 49mm HOYA filter.
But that is with a 7hi. What is the experience of the rest?
 

I have a filter on my 7Hi all the time (either my 49mm Hoya UV or 49mm Hoya Circular Polariser) - no vignetting unless you stack them together.
 

Does having a filter on (eg. UV) cause the pic quality to reduce?
 

hi,

i realize there are several diff measurements mentioned when it comes to filters. err ... what are the diff measurements avail?

"cir pol you probably need at least 62mm to avoid vignetting"
"49mm Size Standard Hoya thickness will not cause vignetting at 28mm"

how do we decide which 2 buy?
 

melnjes said:
I have a filter on my 7Hi all the time (either my 49mm Hoya UV or 49mm Hoya Circular Polariser) - no vignetting unless you stack them together.

Hmm..... Then I guess either my HOYA UV is thicker than normal, or there has been some modification to the 7hi along the production line. Cos I changed to Minolta 49mm because I saw vignetting cause by the filter.
 

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