25cm 'Glidearm' with a 1m travel!

[Bamboopictures]

Remember the Edelkrone Wing concept slider?
Own something similar for $435
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/746115915/the-glidearm?ref=nav_search

 

[JacePhoto]

Thanks for the info, Rodney!

My personal take is it doesn't work. Much like the previous Edelkrone models.

We want the small size slider and get maximum width. But we can't defy physics. Do you notice this product as well as the Edelkrone videos do not show you the tripod that's being used? Please watch their videos again!

In another words, you need to use a bigger tripod to compensate for the small but off balanced slider. It's back to square one on weight and space reduction.

I am still looking and studying Edelkrone SliderOne to see if it really works.

 

[RyanKhoo]

Thanks for the info, Rodney!

My personal take is it doesn't work. Much like the previous Edelkrone models.

We want the small size slider and get maximum width. But we can't defy physics. Do you notice this product as well as the Edelkrone videos do not show you the tripod that's being used? Please watch their videos again!

In another words, you need to use a bigger tripod to compensate for the small but off balanced slider. It's back to square one on weight and space reduction.

I am still looking and studying Edelkrone SliderOne to see if it really works.

Thanks Jacephoto.

Lucky we have you as a physics lecturer else I will lose some money into this ... :bsmilie:

cheers

 

[hamanoshun]

Thanks Jacephoto.

Lucky we have you as a physics lecturer else I will lose some money into this ... :bsmilie:

cheers

If you have used sliders on a single tripod before, you'll know that the old school rail sliders all suffer from this. It's not restricted to just the Edelkrone. Get two lightstands to solve the problem, period.

The smaller your base, the more it'll flex when you go to the ends. In the past I thought it could be offset with heavier tripods, but nope. Support on each end still the best.

 

[hamanoshun]

With that said, I find the concept interesting. It seems to me it only works from a single mounting point, which also means that there's no other way to implement this design into a more heavy duty construction for bigger cameras.

 

[JacePhoto]

If you have used sliders on a single tripod before, you'll know that the old school rail sliders all suffer from this. It's not restricted to just the Edelkrone. Get two lightstands to solve the problem, period.

The smaller your base, the more it'll flex when you go to the ends. In the past I thought it could be offset with heavier tripods, but nope. Support on each end still the best.

nope. not true. there's a little trick to overcome that without using two light stands. and no, you don't have to buy bigger tripods.... haha

 

[Bamboopictures]

nope. not true. there's a little trick to overcome that without using two light stands. and no, you don't have to buy bigger tripods.... haha

Press on half the travel and lift on the other?

 

[kandinsky]

nope. not true. there's a little trick to overcome that without using two light stands. and no, you don't have to buy bigger tripods.... haha

The Konova stability arm?

[video=youtube;rquAoQuuQww]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rquAoQuuQww[/video]

http://konovaphoto.com/best-selling/stability-arm.html

 

[JacePhoto]

Nope. None of the above.

For use of small tripods, you need to make sure/ modify your contact surface between the (long) slider and the (small) contact point of the tripod. This is the surface area where the slider rests on the tripod.

Long slider width + small tripod with short contact tripod = tipping over.

Long slider width + small tripod with WIDE contact tripod = steady and balanced slide.

 

[hamanoshun]

Nope. None of the above.

For use of small tripods, you need to make sure/ modify your contact surface between the (long) slider and the (small) contact point of the tripod. This is the surface area where the slider rests on the tripod.

Long slider width + small tripod with short contact tripod = tipping over.

Long slider width + small tripod with WIDE contact tripod = steady and balanced slide.

Even in the wide case, it'll still tip although lesser than if used with a long plate. It's not a guaranteed solution. I've used the manfrotto 504HD which has a long plate, head faced laterally. It still tips, and I only use the shortest sliders(<60cm).

What kandinsky posted is probably the best solution there is although it costs a fair bit because you have to buy A pair.

Personally, I've done before is put a tripod on one end, and a monopod on the other end for quick setups. I'm using a skinny and cheap velbon monopod I've had since I first started photography about 7-8 years ago. I would advise to get a more heavy duty monopod similar to a manfrotto 561 or 562. Those can be had for about the same price as the stability arm if I'm not wrong.

 

[JacePhoto]

That's why I hesitate to share my findings. Lol

 

[RyanKhoo]

That's why I hesitate to share my findings. Lol

Share leh ... :bsmilie:

 

[alternus]

Even in the wide case, it'll still tip although lesser than if used with a long plate. It's not a guaranteed solution. I've used the manfrotto 504HD which has a long plate, head faced laterally. It still tips, and I only use the shortest sliders(<60cm).

Bro, have you removed the rubber strips from the plate? That should help reduce the tilting.

 

[hamanoshun]

Bro, have you removed the rubber strips from the plate? That should help reduce the tilting.

Hmmmm, never done that but never thought that it might make a significant difference. Will try it out. Thanks!

 

[JacePhoto]

yes, but don't try a 1 meter slider on a small tripod n expect that to work. hee hee...

 

[hamanoshun]

yes, but don't try a 1 meter slider on a small tripod n expect that to work. hee hee...

Never expected it to. I have my reservations with shorter sliders as I've already explained. I won't expect a 1m slider to suddenly work because of some rubber pads.