24/30/60i fps

[code]

What is the difference between the 3? is 30 better than 24 because of the higher frame rate? What is 24 fps considered to give the "cinematic" effect?

 

[engr]

24p is considered the closest to Film cadence. Hence it will resemble film the best BUT there are panning problems due to the low frame rate. 30i and 60i are due to USA power frequency at 60Hz. In order not to have flickering effect from lighting, 60i is the common frame rate. 30 is just divided by 2 and closer to film cadence but it can handle panning shots better. The ghosting effect is not so apparent.

U from the US?

 

[code]

No lah. Bought a Canon HF11 from US to film my kid and still trying to figure out the whole video thing. Seems like 30 and 60 are easier to edit relative to 24?

Thanks for the explanation. Will try to look up further. I was having the typical Singaporean mentality - thought more frame/second is better.

 

[engr]

oic.. dun worry about editing, the NLEs are designed to handle most framerates. Only prob is your cam uses AVCHD codec which tends to choke many NLEs. Very hard to edit cuz it cant playback smoothly on timeline. Some NLEs can handle it well thou.

 

[shojibake]

The 24 fps thing is just something from the film side of moving pictures. In standard definition there's more vertical resolution with a 25 fps camera, which is PAL, vs NTSC, which is 60i/30f or it's drop frame versions. Most people like PAL camera's because of the higher res and the closeness to the 24fps cadence because trying to shoehorn 30 fps into 24 frames is a problem.

But with the advent of HD the resolution differences aren't a big problem anymore, just the cadence issue.

 

[code]

oic.. dun worry about editing, the NLEs are designed to handle most framerates. Only prob is your cam uses AVCHD codec which tends to choke many NLEs. Very hard to edit cuz it cant playback smoothly on timeline. Some NLEs can handle it well thou.

Any NLE to recommend. I am hoping to use my wife's Macbook Pro for editing. Is iMovie good enough? I do not foresee much editing though....

 

[kiwitan]

I am deciding between getting the Sony Vegas Platinum Pro or the Pinacle software for editing AVCHD files from the HF100 video camera.

Sony costs around $240 while the Pinacle around $200. Pls can some one advice as to which is more appropriate for the HF100 videos.

which one should i be getting ?

Thanks.

Only prob is your cam uses AVCHD codec which tends to choke many NLEs. Very hard to edit cuz it cant playback smoothly on timeline. Some NLEs can handle it well thou.

 

[iunspoken]

Any NLE to recommend. I am hoping to use my wife's Macbook Pro for editing. Is iMovie good enough? I do not foresee much editing though....

If you're using a MBP, your natural choice would be Final Cut Studio, or Final Cut Express...

HD is best shot in 60fps, there's something about massive frame loss when one frame gets corrupted....

the thing is, if you're shooting in 30fps, it would be harder to convert it down to 25fps when you're encoding to a dvd for playback in SG. unless you're intending to just play the video directly from your laptop.

 

[jaegersing]

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HD is best shot in 60fps, there's something about massive frame loss when one frame gets corrupted....

the thing is, if you're shooting in 30fps, it would be harder to convert it down to 25fps when you're encoding to a dvd for playback in SG. unless you're intending to just play the video directly from your laptop.

Most HD cams cannot shoot 60fps, although NTSC-land cams can shoot 30 frames per second which is 60 fields per second. Don't know what you mean by massive frame loss, unless you are talking about tape drop-outs in a long-GOP recording?

If you shoot 30fps (or 60 fields per second), you don't need to make a PAL type DVD, because most Singapore video equipment tends to be multi-system and can handle NTSC just fine. So just burn an NTSC DVD.

If necessary, you can convert 30fps to 25fps, but I agree it is not the best thing to do because of motion artifacts.

 

[code]

is 60i = 60fps?

 

[DXNMedia]

nope....60i is still 30fps, just that it is 30 frames in Interlaced acquisition mode.

In an interlaced picture, there are 2 fields per frame. Even & Odd field.